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Georgia football quarterback Stetson Bennett still not getting recognition from national media

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  • HemingweyHemingwey Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 2022

    Bennett is decidely NOT a mere game manager. I wish people would stop using that tired expression. The football analyst who came up with that idiotic term and those in the media who have propagated its over use did a great disservice to all those who follow the sport.

    You seem to just be repeating stuff you have read somewhere… for example, Bennett throws one of the best long ball fades in the CFB. 😉

  • SmartsTheManSmartsTheMan Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    You're throwing out stats as if everything' apples to apples. Young had two of the best receivers in CFB. Bennett had an injury riddled receiving corps. Bennett still led the highest scoring offense in the SEC against SEC only teams. Bennett still had a higher QBR...

  • HemingweyHemingwey Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    He is getting much respect from many Georgia fans… just not those who rooted against him last year. Their egos won’t allow them to admit they got it wrong. 🤣

  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,986 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The whole JFields narrative needs to be put to bed once and for all. Anyone who saw JFromm play in '17 and '18 and JFields play in '18 could see Fromm was at the top of his game and Fields was not ready to start and lead a national contender. Had Fields come back for year 2 he would have beaten out Fromm ('19 career lows in comp %, TD's and QBR). He chose to leave for a guarantee rather than compete.

    It is still puzzling why the staff didn't call more passing plays for Fields in '18. He had a beautiful 75 yd TD pass to MHardman and a higher QBR rating than Fromm in any of Fromm's 3 seasons at UGA. Heading off a QB controversy? Encouraged Fields to return and compete year 2?

    Ironically his best chance to win a CFBNC was to stay at UGA.

  • HemingweyHemingwey Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    You are speculating a lot. Just sayin’. However, no doubt Fields had potential, then he chickened out and went to a conference with no defenses… 😬

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  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,986 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 2022

    "Chickening out" and taking a sure thing are 2 different things. Especially when there was that much money, ultimately, at stake. Can you blame him? Especially if he was getting a "vibe" from the staff that the QB selection was not based on merit. A similar complaint many voiced last season. Personally I believe CKS plays the guy that HE THINKS gives him the best chance to win. He also plays a lot of other guys, score permitting. That is why the play selection for Fields was so puzzling in '18. Freshman = limited package? IDK.

    If you look at the numbers from Fromm and Fields in '19 it is pretty clear that Fields was a generational player that would have surpassed Fromm. OSU knew he was that good. He ended up 3rd in the Heisman and put up numbers never seen at UGA. The schedule UGA played in '19 contained no defenses any better than what OSU played. Fields was a top 10 NFL pick and an NFL starter and Fromm is on his 3rd pro team barely seeing the field. Fields is better. Now and since '19.

    And UGA played AL closer than OSU did in the '20 championship the last 5 times they played them. W/o Fields or w/freshman Fields not playing a significant role. Safe to say UGA would have been significantly better in '19 and '20 w/Fields at QB. Beating AL usually means competing for a championship. Therefore Fields best chance to win a championship was to stay at UGA. I don't see a lot of speculating.

  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,986 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I think you would be very hard pressed to find any UGA fan that "rooted against" SBIV last season. Some fans just did not think he was the best QB on the team. That is a huge difference from "rooting against". Just not to those who's egos won't allow them to admit it.

    In the end it didn't matter as the D carried the day and SBIV avoided the game killing plays he had in the 2 previous AL games. Safe to say either QB could've beaten AL in the CFBCG. Will be interesting to see how the 2 QB's do this season.

  • CandlerParkCandlerPark Posts: 819 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    You're really cherry picking to make a point, kirkhilles.

    Nobody's arguing that Bennett should have won last year's Heisman -- just that he should be on anyone's list of the 25 best returning QBs. So comparing him to Bryce Young on a few select categories (mainly reflecting volume of passes and yards) is a strawman argument.

    Never mind that Bennett actually ranked HIGHER than Young in yards per pass and passer rating, and was essentially the same in QBR -- at third in the nation. The slam dunk is that it's crazy to put Payton Thorne, D.J. Uiagalelei, Phil Jurkovec, Taulia Tagovailoa and several others on the 247 list while leaving off the CFP MVP who ranked third in QBR. I mean, c'mon.

    I'm first to admit that there are some really fine QBs deep into that list. And no doubt Bennett benefited from a great line, great RBs, a superstar TE and a great OC (although, he also overcame decimation of the WR corps to help turn a couple of freshmen into stars). I'll even give you that Bennett's arm strength and height handicap him and that he occasionally hurt us with forced throws.

    But, aside from his heart and his overall good judgment, he has shown himself to be a superb athlete. You'd have to be blind to not notice that he made some incredible passes last year (often when we most needed him), was very accurate in the possession game, and kept drives alive with some exceptional scrambling and gutsy runs.

    His main "faults" (as always) seem to be that didn't have a bunch of stars next to his name coming out of high school and doesn't fit the pro prototype -- neither of which have anything to do with the here and now, i.e. whether he'll be one of "college football's 15 best quarterbacks entering the 2022 season."

    On another note, I'd like to congratulate Connor for finding just the fodder after a holiday weekend to get the blood to boil in the Dawg Nation: Well done, sir! 😁

  • chilidawg1chilidawg1 Posts: 159 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Maybe the sports writers have the same opinion of Stetson that I do. He has less potential than any QB on Georgia's roster. The defense won the Championship. Kudos to Monken for running plays that were designed for Stetson's abilities. If and when Georgia gets behind this year, Stetson may not have the skills to play catchup. If that happens it would have been good for our backups to have gotten some playing during the season.. That is the biggest mistake Kirby made in 2021.

    Before some fans start ringing their hands and screaming about my comments, I admit that Stetson is good Dawg, but let's wait until 2022 is over before evaluating what I've said.

  • BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Speaking of hype....

    You can SEE what happens when a "hyped QB", plays for a team loaded with talent...J. Fields, versus a "hyped QB", playing for a depleted team...DJ Uiagalelei.

    Last year, Uiagalelei was the best thing since sliced bread, going into the opening game against UGA. Hell, they had him doing a half time Dr Pepper commercial during the game. Since then, the roar died to whispers.

    Unlike Young, DJ didn't have the luxury of throwing to 2 of the best receivers in the game...one of which, wasn't good enough to crack the starting line-up of the very talented OSU team Fields QB'd, the year before, yet garnered a #12 overall draft pick this year...with a torn ACL.

    QB's are hyped by the media, because that's the only position on the field, they, and most "fans" understand or have interest in. I could probably count on one hand, the number of QB's that actually earned their hype on the field without a talented supporting cast. Michael Vick and Cam Newton immediately come to mind. I don't see a QB of that caliber going into 2022.

    Young was a product of the talent around him. You can see with your own eyes, how effective he was without Williams and Metchie. Will he have similar talent at that position this year? Will his OL be able to protect him? He can't make a living running the ball and making plays anymore than Bennett can.

    The difference between Young and Bennett, going into 2022, is that this year, the talent is going to be on Bennett's side.

    To say UGA didn't win the CFCG because of Bennett is a convenient, disingenuous lie. If Bennett hadn't thrown for 2 TDs at the end of the game...UGA loses. Like Johnny Unitas, he did what he had to do to WIN. It's just that simple.

    As I've said before...QBs get far too much credit for a team's success and far too much blame for it's failure...with few exceptions. UGAs offense is going to be off-the-charts efficient this year. Will Bennett get any of the credit? Not if the media and some stubborn fans can help it. LOL.

    With respect to Bennett...they seem to go out of their way to point to every other metric and scheme as to why UGA's offensive success "just can't be Bennett". It's impossible that everybody was wrong about him in 2017, 18, 19, 20 and 21. Even Booger McFarland said, "UGA can't win a Championship with Bennett at QB". And Booger's never wrong. 🤣🤣🤣

  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,986 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 2022

    I guess the #'s put up by Fields and Young are just hype. Those excellent WR's must've throw the ball to themselves. And the UGA D and passrush had nothing to do with Young's "ineffectiveness". BTW Young had more yards and higher QBR in losing than SBIV did in winning. How disingenuous. LOL

    Bennett threw a SCREEN PASS to a wide open Bowers (that miraculously came w/in an inch of being batted down at the line) who used his speed and great UGA blocking to score a TD. Bowers was as good a target for a QB as anyone on CFB last year. Prior to that Bennett threw up a 50/50 Hail Mary bomb that his 6'4" WR (20 yo Fr who played all year) caught after outfighting a true freshman CB pressed into action by injuries.

    But yeah SBIV is "Unitas". But I guess everyone in the world is wrong except a few UGA fans that think UGA won a championship because of SBIV. LOL

  • KeepChoppingKeepChopping Posts: 10 ✭ Freshman

    Thank you. The homer-ism on this site is often enough to drive rational fans away.

  • BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I could fit everything you know about football, in a thimble. LOL

    But, that's okay....you, do you. You throw statistics and numbers around, with no clear direction in your argument. You make an argument in one direction, then change directions completely as if we forgot everything you posted before that.

    It's like one Dawg Nation member said....you're trying to be too clever for your own good and step all over your previous posts.

    You make my point, regarding media and "fans" bending over backwards to credit everybody, but, Bennett. You were one of the naysayers last year that can't quite get the medicine down. You were WRONG about Bennet, Young, Fields and every other QB you thave tried to analyze since I've been paying attention.

    You do give me a good laugh and I enjoy reading your posts.. Thank you. You would give Lewis Grizzard a run for his money. LOL

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