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The Hawks probably made a mistake in not taking Luca Doncic...

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  • MeR3htidMeR3htid Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Thanks for the NBA thread and this is off topic but for those that think Michael Jordan is the G.O.A.T This is why that CANNOT b true. I could put a 5 man lineup with PG Lebron James 6'9 265 lbs SG Kevin Durant 7'0 C Joel Embid 7'2 275lbs PF Anthony Davis 6'11 255 lbs SF Giannis 6'11 and now up to 245lbs and if Jordan was an opposing player going up against that lineup he would b unplayable cause he's just too little. Who would he b equipped to guard. Go ahead tell me.
    Who Would he b able to Guard Lebron? H-NO. Durant HELL NO! Embid? 😂😂😂 Anthony Davis? Nope. The Greek Freak? No because he's just to little and cant jump high enough to compete or match up with ANYONE of the 5. So how could the so called G.O.A.T. get played off the floor if he was TRULY the G.O.A.T. The answer is hes not the G.O.A.T. Tell me Im wrong.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @MeR3htid said:
    Thanks for the NBA thread and this is off topic but for those that think Michael Jordan is the G.O.A.T This is why that CANNOT b true. I could put a 5 man lineup with PG Lebron James 6'9 265 lbs SG Kevin Durant 7'0 C Joel Embid 7'2 275lbs PF Anthony Davis 6'11 255 lbs SF Giannis 6'11 and now up to 245lbs and if Jordan was an opposing player going up against that lineup he would b unplayable cause he's just too little. Who would he b equipped to guard. Go ahead tell me.
    Who Would he b able to Guard Lebron? H-NO. Durant HELL NO! Embid? 😂😂😂 Anthony Davis? Nope. The Greek Freak? No because he's just to little and cant jump high enough to compete or match up with ANYONE of the 5. So how could the so called G.O.A.T. get played off the floor if he was TRULY the G.O.A.T. The answer is hes not the G.O.A.T. Tell me Im wrong.

    Well that type of team would never be put together. I agree that lebron is the GOAT but this argument is kinda weird. Like yeah Jordan would struggle against a team of generational stars

  • MeR3htidMeR3htid Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Point is regardless of generations he can b rendered unplayable. Bird could matchup with Durant IMO. Not necessarily outplay him every time but it would b a pretty even matchup. Scottie Pippen could stay on the floor as well. Hes big enough, athletic enough, and a versatile enough defender to hang. Magic Johnson is plenty big enough, smart enough and versatile enough to hang. Dirk could hang. No explanation necessary. But why wouldn't Jordan b able to get on the court much less stay out there? Because hes not big enough to play with the REALLY BIG BOYS. Michael Jordan the goat. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Yeah sure.

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  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2018

    @rednavel said:
    I was screaming at my TV on draft day when they announced we would trade down to 5. Trae Young was picked for the ticket sales. A team interested in winning would not pick an undersized, defense-allergic, all-offense guard who gets routinely abused by bigger players. Ultimately I don’t think we got enough in that trade to bridge the ability gap between Young and Doncic.

    Depends on whom we get, doesn’t it ? Hawks need lots of pieces still, so a couple of high picks will help a lot and make Young a more effective player. It’s at least a 3 year project.

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @YaleDawg said:

    @MeR3htid said:
    Thanks for the NBA thread and this is off topic but for those that think Michael Jordan is the G.O.A.T This is why that CANNOT b true. I could put a 5 man lineup with PG Lebron James 6'9 265 lbs SG Kevin Durant 7'0 C Joel Embid 7'2 275lbs PF Anthony Davis 6'11 255 lbs SF Giannis 6'11 and now up to 245lbs and if Jordan was an opposing player going up against that lineup he would b unplayable cause he's just too little. Who would he b equipped to guard. Go ahead tell me.
    Who Would he b able to Guard Lebron? H-NO. Durant HELL NO! Embid? 😂😂😂 Anthony Davis? Nope. The Greek Freak? No because he's just to little and cant jump high enough to compete or match up with ANYONE of the 5. So how could the so called G.O.A.T. get played off the floor if he was TRULY the G.O.A.T. The answer is hes not the G.O.A.T. Tell me Im wrong.

    Well that type of team would never be put together. I agree that lebron is the GOAT but this argument is kinda weird. Like yeah Jordan would struggle against a team of generational stars

    Who’d guard MJ?

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @YaleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @YaleDawg said:
    I wanted to tell schlenk to go f himself after that trade. I knew it was **** decision and he was so d a m n predictable with trying to copy the warriors.

    Young has excellent qualities, he just needs to get stronger and stop taking bad shots.
    Doncic clearly has the basketball IQ to be an all star for many years though, you can't teach that.

    When you have the third pick you always take the best available player. Doncic was clearly the best player and its showing now. Young can be good but he will not reach doncic's level. His play style epitomizes modern basketball

    The bargain would have been better if Dallas had been as bad as expected. Doncic is making a big difference though. I doubt The Hawks get a lottery pick from their #1. The highest pick GS had in building it's roster was #6, with Green being fairly low in the 1st rd. So having a likely top 3 and maybe a top 15 pick is still a good opportunity.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2018

    @donm said:

    @rednavel said:
    I was screaming at my TV on draft day when they announced we would trade down to 5. Trae Young was picked for the ticket sales. A team interested in winning would not pick an undersized, defense-allergic, all-offense guard who gets routinely abused by bigger players. Ultimately I don’t think we got enough in that trade to bridge the ability gap between Young and Doncic.

    Depends on whom we get, doesn’t it ? Hawks need lots of pieces still, so a couple of high picks will help a lot and make Young a more effective player. It’s at least a 3 year project.

    I agree. I see probably 5 players who can contribute to an elite team on roster now who are very young. There is the beginning of something if the right moves are make going forward. John Collins just turned 21 in Sep. and he's already a 23 pt 11 rebound player over the past 10 games. If he can stay on the court he'll be close to a star soon.

  • texdawgtexdawg Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @texdawg said:

    @Kasey said:
    🤔 I wonder who said that way back when during draft time...someone on this board...anyone know?

    You were right @Kasey. Us Dawg fans in Dallas are very happy with Doncic. So far as many 30 pt games as the rest of the rookies combined.

    Cuban knows how to pick them sometimes

    Cuban is a novice at best, their HC worked with Doncic in Europe, he made the call.

    Donnie Nelson is really the European expert. He is more responsible than Carlisle.

    Cuban is not involved in putting the roster together. He knows his place better than Jerry Jones does.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @texdawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @texdawg said:

    @Kasey said:
    🤔 I wonder who said that way back when during draft time...someone on this board...anyone know?

    You were right @Kasey. Us Dawg fans in Dallas are very happy with Doncic. So far as many 30 pt games as the rest of the rookies combined.

    Cuban knows how to pick them sometimes

    Cuban is a novice at best, their HC worked with Doncic in Europe, he made the call.

    Donnie Nelson is really the European expert. He is more responsible than Carlisle.

    Cuban is not involved in putting the roster together. He knows his place better than Jerry Jones does.

    Thanks, it's good to get info from somebody who follows The Mavs closely.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2018

    @rednavel said:
    I was screaming at my TV on draft day when they announced we would trade down to 5. Trae Young was picked for the ticket sales. A team interested in winning would not pick an undersized, defense-allergic, all-offense guard who gets routinely abused by bigger players. Ultimately I don’t think we got enough in that trade to bridge the ability gap between Young and Doncic.

    We got John Collins with the #21 pick in 2017, so it's possible we'll get a future star with the Dallas pick.
    Collins is already knocking on the door of 20 pts 10 rebounds at 21 years 3 months old. As of tonight there are just 5 players in The NBA who hit both marks.

  • RandomFanRandomFan Posts: 536 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Making judgements on players halfway during their rookie seasons. Yeah, no chance that could ever backfire...

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2018

    @RandomFan said:
    Making judgements on players halfway during their rookie seasons. Yeah, no chance that could ever backfire...

    I agree it's usually very dicey, but Doncic does look like the real deal. Basketball IQ is usually pretty reliable.

  • judasdurantjudasdurant Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I mean it’s not like there was any way for the hawks to know Luka would be amazing besides the entire season of him dominating the second best basketball league in the world at 18. Who would’ve thought!!!

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @judasdurant said:
    I mean it’s not like there was any way for the hawks to know Luka would be amazing besides the entire season of him dominating the second best basketball league in the world at 18. Who would’ve thought!!!

    His athleticism was a legitimate question. He dropped the baby fat and it's made him quicker and more explosive to the basket. The European leagues are very good, but success there doesn't always translate to The NBA.

    Trae Young was the first player to lead CBB in both scoring and assist, and he did it as a true freshman in a top conference.

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