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So Chipper should’ve never hit 3rd in his HOF career? Sounds goofy to me.
Based off this article he should’ve been a 2 or 4 hitter. Probably #2 earlier in his career and #4 later on when his knees were slowing him down a bit.
Acuña is deadly in the lead off spot
I'm pretty sure that Swanson will be under the microscope. He's also a potential piece to move if need be.
Also, and this isn't a complaint - I'd posted a similar thing a while back and threw in the wildcard that Austin Riley might push for a start. Yeah, I was trying to be a bit provocative to make the conversation interesting, but Donaldson will be the guy at the hot corner.
With analytics and “the new baseball “ third is the new clean up.
Puljoles (sp) and others started batting 3rd to get more ab throughout the year
Finally someone who gets it. WRC is the offensive stat
And @bmauldin that’s not true. With analytics 3rd in the order is not a highly valued spot, mainly because they have the most at bats over the year with 0 on and 2 outs. @Teddy is right, 2 is now the highest valued offensive spot.
I don't mind the best hitter getting more ABs by moving up to 2nd or 3rd in the lineup. Your best hitter should always bat in the first inning of the game imo.
Curious why Chipper should have batted 2nd instead of third. What is it about WRC that suggest this? Why is it the best offensive stat?
Stats show that the third batter will bat more often than any other spot with 2 outs and nobody on. No point in having your best batter at the plate with 2 outs an nobody on more than anyone else on the team.
bmauldin. Batting 4th gives a hitter better odds of having baserunners and more particularly, runners in scoring position when he bats in the 1st inning. More runs by far are scored in the 1st inning than any other inning over the course of a season.
WRC+ doesn't suggest that Chipper should have hit 2nd, because WRC+ doesn't give any information into lineup construction.
"Imagine you were a computer and could comprehend a whole bunch of information at once. So you decided to create a landscape of every plate appearance in baseball. The ones with none on, two out, the ones with the bases loaded, zero out, the ones with a man on second and one out, and everything else. Then, in that landscape, you ran an experiment. First, you started with outs. You started in every plate appearance, had the hitter at the plate make an out, and then recorded how many runs ended up scoring that inning (after the out). Then, you did singles. Singles score more runs than outs -- not only can they sometimes drive runners in, but they also extend innings and can lead to runs after the single. And then doubles. And triples. And homers. And walks. And hit by pitches. And then, after you did your experiment for every type of outcome, you just averaged the amount of “runs contributed” from the out versus the single, the double, etc."
WRC basically assigns an average runs scored per single/double/triple etc empirically. It then adds up the expected value of runs scored due to your offensive outcomes. It takes into account the entire run environment in the league and properly assigns some number of created runs to certain outcomes, which is good because runs are the currency of baseball.
If you want to look and see how well a hitter is doing, why bother looking at counting stats, trying to figure out the different relative values of a triple-slash line, or anything else? wRC+ is one simple number that’s already scaled to league average, and even factors the hitter’s home park into account to some extent.
https://www.talkingchop.com/2019/2/5/18202672/baseball-analysis-primer-hitting-sabermetrics
Thanks for the link. I enjoyed it up until it gave me a headache and then I had to quit.
One thing of note, the stats also show if you actually batted everyone in the worst possible position in the lineup it wouldn't affect your won loss record more than a game or two over an entire season. So, a lot depends on how the players feel about where they hit.
I always preferred hitting 3rd because I always knew I would get to hit in the first inning, no matter what.
We should know more Friday night, but I sure hope we didn't waste money on Donaldson. Hope his shoulder was just a one time injury. I had no problem with Camargo at third. But if Donaldson is healthy and can remain healthy, could be a great pickup. Also, Swanson is supposed to play Friday night too. Looking forward to a repeat of 2018 for the NL East champions.
I’m one of the few who has complete faith in Dansby
1. Ender
2. Acuña
3. Freeman
4. Donaldson
5. Markakis
6. Albies
7. Catcher
8. Dansby
So much faith you have him batting 8th ;)
Interesting...
Robbierob You may have complete faith in Dansby, but he's done every little at the plate to earn your faith. He wasn't good the first half of 2018 and he was even worse in the second half. His post all star numbers were worse in almost every detail.