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Braves Ongoing Season Comments Thread..
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Not a ton of confidence in that analogy
Degrom and Stroman are their only starters who scare anybody. The Braves have the better offense overall and even a better team ERA to this point. Stroman might tilt pitching slightly in The Mets' favor but it's a bit skewed to look at a team on a roll and draw too many conclusions from a 14 game span.
Their rotation is much better than ours, and I know I wouldn’t want to see them in the playoffs. Degrom Thor Wheeler and Stroman are all top of the rotation type guys when healthy.
key phrase...”up to potential”
ERAs don't support the idea that their rotation is much better than ours.
ERA is a flawed stat. Also, if we come in with a 9.00 ERA for the season but shut people down in the playoffs it won't really matter. I would not want to play the mets in the postseason
I'm not worried about The Mets. Also ERA is the best gauge of a starting pitcher, other than in some short term situations. You either give up runs or you don't.
I mean if we take soroka out of the equation, would you pick any of the Braves starters over any of their top 4? Wheeler is a legit stud when he is healthy, he just has had issues with health. Same with syndeguard who isn’t what we hoped he may be in 2016, but still a legitimate #2 type guy with upside to dominate if he clicks. Stroman is pretty similar to kuechel, both being big time ground ball guys.
The Braves are a better team than they are, but I’m not going to say our starters are on the Mets level.
and you didn't even mention our best pitcher
Haha yeah degrom need not be argued for, he is a true ace. I love soroka but no way I take soroka over degrom if I’m picking teams for a playoff series.
Mets - Degrom. 2.77 ERA 1.07 WHIP
Braves - Soroka 2.45 ERA 1.11 WHIP
Mets - Marcus Stroman. 3.07 ERA 1.26 WHIP
Braves - Julio Teheran. 3.46 ERA 1.30 WHIP
Mets - Noah Syndergaard. 3.96 ERA 1.21 WHIP
Braves - Dallas Keuchel. 3.86 ERA 1.26 WHIP
Mets - Jason Vargas. 4.01 ERA 1.27 WHIP
Braves - Max Fried. 4.11 ERA 1.37 WHIP
The only spot The Mets have a real advantage is the #2 with Stroman over Teheran, and Stroman is a 4 month wonder, Julio has a far better career record. Wheeler has a 4.20 ERA and Steve Matz also has a 4.20 ERA, so The Mets have an advantage in numbers, which won't matter com e the playoffs and will disappear if Folty comes around.
As for what you prefer, it's nonsense, ERA is the actual result.
FYI Soroka pitched against DeGrom June 28th.
Braves 6 Mets 2
Soroka 6.1 innings 2 earned runs 4 Ks 0 walks
DeGrom. 6.0 innings 3 earned runs 7 Ks 2 walks.
You'll have confidence when The Mets are splattered all over the ball park.
Starting pitching is fine. Giving up four runs in the 9th today is not. Paging Mark Wohlers!
Vargas plays for the Phillies now
96 Wohlers or 91 Wohlers?
Unless a starter is pulled early we'll only use 4 or so relief pitchers in the playoffs and if a starter does go out very early a starter will probably be used. No doubt Snitker needs to figure out the pecking order though.
Ugh. That 96 series... Thanks for bringing that up. And to the Yankees of all teams. I’m hoping these new pitchers get their act together soon or else it will be a short honeymoon.
I would take Smoltz at his peak as a closer over anybody other than Mariano Rivera in a playoff series.
OK, let's update what is needed to win the division.
If we play .500 ball the rest of the way (23-23)
Washington would have to go 30-18 to tie us.
Philly would have to go 32-16 to tie us.
The Metros would have to go 32-15 to tie us.
If we win just 4 more than we lose 25-21
Washington would have to go 32-16 to tie.
Philly would have to go 34-14 to tie
The Metros would have to go 34-13 to tie us.