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  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,535 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Read the line above the second set. It clearly states Positive for the first time as a percentage of all the people tested that day. That means it includes those who are repeat negatives.

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,535 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    NY is going to phase 4 reopening tomorrow. This allows most businesses to reopen but still does not allow Bars or indoor dining. It has a mask mandate so is basically akin to what I think is the path forward. I will be watching to see if they fare better than the other states/countries that have reopened.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2020

    LOL. Now I’m going to ask you to read the same thing again, and this time please take note of the comma at the end, which is then followed by the words “EXCLUDING PEOPLE WHO HAVE PREVIOUSLY TESTED POSITIVE.

    So if you’re retesting because you previously tested positive, then all of your future tests are excluded Including the negatives

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Denmen185 I believe NY will fare better. The virus may have already burned out there. R-factors never took “susceptibility” under consideration. This is not truly a novel virus. That’s why it is primarily killing the people that are already in the high risk class to be one of the 1.5 million who die every single year of heart disease, cancer, copd, ****, and diabetes.

    We’ve never tried to spend $2 trillion to stop those things, and those numbers repeat every single year.

    If I’m wrong and it does spread again then New Yorkers should burn the governor’s mansion if they try to shutdown again, as it will be obvious their efforts are futile.

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,535 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2020

    Last of the last 🤣

    At a LTC facility the 10 employees are tested every 3 days. One tests positive. The total tests for the month is 100. My method (per CDC) says that for August the infection rate was 10% (1 in 10), Yours (per DOH ) would say 1% (1/100) positivity. I will always use my method but if you prefer the DOH method then just ignore mine. Just don't say that 100 residents of the state have been tested and one was positive.

    So if we test the same person 22 million times tomorrow we can confidently say that we tested the entire population of Florida and got zero positives! Not attacking you but showing the FLDOH testing data is misleading

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2020

    Thank you for FINALLY agreeing with me.

    But we should continue trusting your numbers even though you get them from FDOH.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2020

    Jack Nicholas and his wife, both 80 years old, tested + and had basically nil side effects months ago.

    WAY more widespread than people think. This thing is gonna burn out, and the CDC knows it. They just want a way to claim a “policy victory” with these bogus preventative measures

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2020


    I am unsure of the legitimacy of this image. Someone prove it wrong.

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,535 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2020

    Great news. If only the No HCQ had actually had tests before getting the virus it would be worthwhile (maybe different results). Europe got blindsided 3 weeks earlier than most except Germany who developed a test from the genetic make-up provided by the WHO. This mean't inadequate testing in most EU countries which means only the most severe cases were tested which in turn means a higher CFR.

    In the US roughly 40% of the cases have yet to be decided due to being confirmed within the last month. But if the CFR stays around 5% we should get to immunity after 5-10 million die.

    With 50 different variables it is extremely dangerous to assign the difference in CFR to one (which studies disprove). I would ask you "Is HCQ sold in Gummibear form?" 🤣🤣. If so I know someone who has 60 million you can get made by an unapproved factory!

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,535 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    BTW The treatment was pioneered in France which has the highest CFR of any but yet is in the No HCQ use group.

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,535 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    2 paragraphs

    Judge for yourself. The mortality in the control group was 9.3%. The mortality in the chloroquine group was 16.4%. The mortality in the chloroquine plus macrolide group was 22.2%. The mortality in the hydroxychloroquine group was 18%. And the mortality in the hydroxychloroquine plus macrolide group was 23.8%.

    Let’s look at cardiac arrhythmia. The 0.3% of the control group developed new arrhythmias during their hospitalization. But 4.3% of the chloroquine treatment group did. And 6.5% of the chloroquine plus macrolide group. As did 6.1% of the hydroxychloroquine group. And 8.1% of the hydroxychlorquine plus macrolide group.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    5-10 million? Wow. Is that a prediction?

    I posted and asked for feedback from anyone, but the tone of your response makes me feel like you didn’t appreciate me pointing out you’ve been posting questionable data for nearly 5 months.

    Im just asking questions. Don’t take it personally.

    People should do their own France/HCQ research. Just because they were the first to show successful use doesn’t mean they were a user. And why? Politics may have played a role.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2020

    Cherrypicking a study where there may have been bad Interactions with multiple drugs does not prove every drug in the study was bad. I’m surprised you are conducting yourself in this manner

    99% survival. What were you saying about 5% and 5-10 million?

    Check your dates. You are citing stuff from months ago. Mine are within the last few days.

  • Raiderbeater1Raiderbeater1 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Juice isn’t worth the squeeze fellas. Call me reckless, but it’s true.

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,535 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2020

    Not a prediction. Merely using the CFR on the graph that you showed. As I have said, the CFR is more a function of testing criteria than national death rate so there are many factors involved here. If you are so limited that you decide to only test patients immediately before being intubated the CFR would be 80-90%. That doesn't mean 40 times more people die in that country in comparison with a country that has plentiful tests and a CFR of 2.5%.

    Please explain why if there are 2 people in the same household where 1 tests positive 10 times and the other negative 10 times you believe that only 9% of 2 people have the virus (1/11 tests - due to 1 positive and 10 negatives) . Mine would say that 50% of the 2 have the virus (1/2 tests - 1 positive and 1 negative). Which is more suspect?

    BTW they are not my numbers, they are numbers from the source you quote. Infection rate = 1st time positive divided by first time positive + 1st time negative.

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