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Teddy, for me, I'm in the white boarding stage where I think most ideas should be considered - even if just for fun by us dawgfans. I find that encouraging ideas generally results in better ideas if we wait to dismiss them. I think the best suggestion I've heard is the idea of sitting out any game against your former team. That was brilliant. I think there are there are other good ideas, both mentioned and not yet mentioned, that could be part of a fair and good solution. I think some sort of market system makes sense. There are lots of ways a transfer system could be abused by players and/or universities and a market system could guard against some of this abuse. I also think a market system could reward those community colleges who do the best job of developing talent and create another incentive for them to actually develop and not just play the talent they get. And to P5 teams, it would be well worth it to pay a community college $50K for a well-developed player. None of these ideas are pressure tested yet, but I would want to bake any idea suggested before taking it off our dawgnation whiteboard.
So you’re our Todd Hartley?
Dude you're engaging in a non-sequitur and need to understand the context in which I used "trade" and "free agency". It was specifically used in response to overcoming potential perceptions issues related to compensation to schools. There's nothing to debunk, because the word TRADE does not have to enter the picture. It's simply compensation from one school to another to cover costs of a TRANSFER.
As CaliforniaDawg suggests... this is a whiteboard idea. It requires conceptualization and maturation, not semantics or obsessing over a word.
This reminds me of the time when I was developing a global marketing piece for a Gaming company in California. This English chap wanted to debate every noun, adjective and verb. After endless hours of tedium my manager sent an email to this fellow and said "Enough, the piece is going out as originally written". I just smiled.
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Thanks for the post, you view, and your take on this.
Question for the board that this post brought to mind:
Do we want/expect Athens (and, subsequently, UGA) to be reflective of our society, a better version of our society, or a polished Utopia?
I apologize for the lack of options, but I wanted brevity hoping this actually gets read.
I would argue that Athens, and the student body, is actually a pretty fair representation of our society. There are awesome people. There is crazy diversity. There are some weird, eclectic nightlife spots. There are engines for the arts. There are educated people, and people who suffer from great ignorance - and both of those groups have loud and quiet members. There are people who love and people who hate. There are liberals and conservatives.
And there are racists. Plenty of people with views that 90% of us would consider very racist. Some of them are actually students at UGA (this sentence was meant to be said with a shockingly sarcastic tone). Because there are racists in this world. Everywhere.
So, do we want to wash Athens clean of hate and racism? Or are we fine with the fact that it is a reflection of who we all are? If you want to wash, I just need a nice, clean, precise list of who has to go and who gets to stay. Then, it will be the utopia you seek.
My take - until the world around us gets better, Athens will be Athens. No better, no worse on these issues than most other places. And if anyone comes to Athens - or any college town - looking to "escape" the world and it's problems rather than be educated and learn how to overcome this type of ignorance and hate, then they will be disappointed. Same for Oxford. Same for Clemson. Same for Eugene. Same for Atlanta...
What costs does UGA incur for Reese to go to Ole Miss?
I did consider his idea, then deemed it not to be that great of an idea (IMO of course). Props to him for voicing his opinion, I'll then voice my opinion if that's ok.
Yessir, all great points. The truth and the solution is somewhere in the middle. Common ground is a good place to start.
Agree. All he has to do now is sign the waiver. Then we can all see what is what. Transparency please.
Please stop.
It was a genuine question, if you can prove UGA is taking on costs by Reese leaving, I may change my mind about your idea.
What costs does UGA incur for Reese to go to Ole Miss?
I think a top program like UGA could make a case that their facilities, trainers, coaches and general support offered to their athletes is greater than some other teams (if you compare the budgets for athletics among colleges, you will clearly see which schools provide the best support). I imagine UGA spends a LOT more on football than Ole Miss. Otis benefited from training at UGA only to have him take his skills and training to a rival. Companies do this all the time when training employees, especially in high-dollar programs. If you decide to leave early after receiving company-paid certifications you could be on the hook to repay the company. I don't think it would ever come to this in college sports, but the idea of repaying costs incurred is not unheard of.