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I agree with you on the football program, I disagree on "vast majority" of students.
Theres a solid of the student body (including parts of Greek life as we have seen with recent events) that have at best "problematic" views on race.
As a black alumni from UGA, it's hard to see something like Generals downtown and say "Athen's has no issues on race".
deleted posts: when warranted
buries threads: when warranted
I change no narratives despite what you want to believe. just because I happen to disagree with you on social issues while also reinforcing the rules (to the best of my ability...i'm admittedly imperfect on this) on these live wire types of threads.
point of reference, I haven't touched any of the posts on these now 11 pages. I'm not a perfect mod, as i've stated, and @pgjackson loves to tweak me out here in public because he feels i've unfairly tinkered with his posts in the past. i'm just defending myself in the nicest way possible.
just like i'm doing here.
thanks for your continued participation.
I'm just saying, those with more power receive more judgement. You are the QB of our message board. I'm the water boy.
wrong again. Jeff Sentell is the HC. I'm like the TE coach with a lot of personality he lets speak to the media because he trusts me. Every now and again I gotta give some of you guys up/downs and then you whine about it to my face.
please OT this post
Not sure why you felt the need, as forum leadership and a guy who exercises a great deal of control over what gets posted on this site, to come on this thread on page 10 to simply express your dislike of the topic. Funny meme, sure, but I fully expected the thread to be closed after it was posted. I don't enjoy tweaking you, I dislike needless censorship.
You never replied to my previous comment debunking your "concept" that these should be trades. Please focus on better defending your concept when it's shot down. Oh, and the reason I'm focusing on the word trade, as that's exactly what you're describing. Having a school compensate another school because a player transferred, that's literally a trade. My previous response below.
Transfers are not a trade though, so shouldn't be treated like one. The "basic trade" you mentioned has already taken place prior to the transfer, Reese agreed to play for UGA in trade for an education and football training, in which both parties fulfilled their obligation. So, that deal is already done and Reese was not "under contract" past the 2019 season. Transfers are more like free agency, as the players are 99% of the time on one-year scholarships.
I'm fine with players transferring, they should just know by now that if you transfer within the SEC you have to sit a year. It's that simple. It's a competitive advantage to have someone who knows their former team's playbook in and out, and also knows players' strengths and weaknesses on their former team more than your average scout/film guy would. So, the tradeoff for taking this info to your new team is to sit out a year. If they want to play right away they can pick from about 115 other non-SEC FBS schools.
my "great deal" of exercised control is over what goes against forum guidelines. The thread wasn't closed immediately because it involved a former Georgia player regarding Georgia football. While I disagreed with many posts in this thread, they were mostly civil without being overtly racist.
why does anyone post anything on message boards? if people didn't like my funny gif or my opinion on the thread, they could've DV'd it or OT'd it. So far only one person DV'd it, so it seems like it was a well-received post.
and i'll say again, I don't needlessly censor anyone I disagree with. if a post does not meet the forum guidelines I do my best in making sure those are moderated properly.
thanks for your continued perseverance in modding the mods. we greatly appreciate it.
This sounds like something a trained marxist would say /s
Really? Fla. is on another level with their court system and how messed up / money hungry they are. They’re the absolute worst in this country. I don’t think you’ll win any battles here trying to compare them to GA, especially when it’s something you “heard.” There’s also a reason why it’s called ‘municipal’ court. Get a speeding ticket? If the cop checks “appear” you pay the fine in court on your set date in that city. Don’t all courthouses have cash registers???
I’m a native Georgian with bar licenses in both states, and I prosecuted in both states, so I feel fairly qualified to speak on the differences in their legal systems.
Problem with this article is they say that Otis said he was called the a racial slur by another student athlete. I don't see where he said that. He says a friend was. This was probably Justin Fields. This article sounds like it happened again.
Teddy, for me, I'm in the white boarding stage where I think most ideas should be considered - even if just for fun by us dawgfans. I find that encouraging ideas generally results in better ideas if we wait to dismiss them. I think the best suggestion I've heard is the idea of sitting out any game against your former team. That was brilliant. I think there are there are other good ideas, both mentioned and not yet mentioned, that could be part of a fair and good solution. I think some sort of market system makes sense. There are lots of ways a transfer system could be abused by players and/or universities and a market system could guard against some of this abuse. I also think a market system could reward those community colleges who do the best job of developing talent and create another incentive for them to actually develop and not just play the talent they get. And to P5 teams, it would be well worth it to pay a community college $50K for a well-developed player. None of these ideas are pressure tested yet, but I would want to bake any idea suggested before taking it off our dawgnation whiteboard.
So you’re our Todd Hartley?
Dude you're engaging in a non-sequitur and need to understand the context in which I used "trade" and "free agency". It was specifically used in response to overcoming potential perceptions issues related to compensation to schools. There's nothing to debunk, because the word TRADE does not have to enter the picture. It's simply compensation from one school to another to cover costs of a TRANSFER.
As CaliforniaDawg suggests... this is a whiteboard idea. It requires conceptualization and maturation, not semantics or obsessing over a word.
This reminds me of the time when I was developing a global marketing piece for a Gaming company in California. This English chap wanted to debate every noun, adjective and verb. After endless hours of tedium my manager sent an email to this fellow and said "Enough, the piece is going out as originally written". I just smiled.
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Thanks for the post, you view, and your take on this.
Question for the board that this post brought to mind:
Do we want/expect Athens (and, subsequently, UGA) to be reflective of our society, a better version of our society, or a polished Utopia?
I apologize for the lack of options, but I wanted brevity hoping this actually gets read.
I would argue that Athens, and the student body, is actually a pretty fair representation of our society. There are awesome people. There is crazy diversity. There are some weird, eclectic nightlife spots. There are engines for the arts. There are educated people, and people who suffer from great ignorance - and both of those groups have loud and quiet members. There are people who love and people who hate. There are liberals and conservatives.
And there are racists. Plenty of people with views that 90% of us would consider very racist. Some of them are actually students at UGA (this sentence was meant to be said with a shockingly sarcastic tone). Because there are racists in this world. Everywhere.
So, do we want to wash Athens clean of hate and racism? Or are we fine with the fact that it is a reflection of who we all are? If you want to wash, I just need a nice, clean, precise list of who has to go and who gets to stay. Then, it will be the utopia you seek.
My take - until the world around us gets better, Athens will be Athens. No better, no worse on these issues than most other places. And if anyone comes to Athens - or any college town - looking to "escape" the world and it's problems rather than be educated and learn how to overcome this type of ignorance and hate, then they will be disappointed. Same for Oxford. Same for Clemson. Same for Eugene. Same for Atlanta...
What costs does UGA incur for Reese to go to Ole Miss?
I did consider his idea, then deemed it not to be that great of an idea (IMO of course). Props to him for voicing his opinion, I'll then voice my opinion if that's ok.