Home General
Hey folks - as a member of the DawgNation community, please remember to abide by simple rules of civil engagement with other members:

- Please no inappropriate usernames (remember that there may be youngsters in the room)

- Personal attacks on other community members are unacceptable, practice the good manners your mama taught you when engaging with fellow Dawg fans

- Use common sense and respect personal differences in the community: sexual and other inappropriate language or imagery, political rants and belittling the opinions of others will get your posts deleted and result in warnings and/ or banning from the forum

- 3/17/19 UPDATE -- We've updated the permissions for our "Football" and "Commit to the G" recruiting message boards. We aim to be the best free board out there and that has not changed. We do now ask that all of you good people register as a member of our forum in order to see the sugar that is falling from our skies, so to speak.

As good as this class will be......

245

Comments

  • TeddyTeddy Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:
    My apologies to those who have been posting how thin we are on the interior DL, I hadn't really taken a close look.
    We will only have 4 experienced veterans in 2018, and 1 of them is a NT.
    Holy mother of pearl this really could be an issue. Wyatt at least has a year in JC and he's already on campus.
    We lose Hawkins-Muckle after this season plus whoever might leave early.
    We have Michael Barnett but it seems like he moved to the OL, but it's just 1 step back to the defensive side of the LOS.
    We only have Jonathan Ledbetter, Justin Young and Keyon Brown listed as DEs, only David Marshall is in that hybrid area of 270lb/280lb at LB, so it's really thin.
    I'm guessing Kirby goes after the best DTs in junior college for the 2019 class, we'll need them.

    Yeah, I've mentioned this several times. I think we'll be fine on the DE/DT types, but we really need that big bodied NG type player. Banking on Wyatt and not too many others is rolling the dice a little too much for me. Especially if we have to go through Bama, who would exploit that match up with their elite oline. That's why I think we close with Davis and Walthour, as two of the four remaining signees. We need the big bodies up front. Although, I wouldn't necessarily go the juco route in 2019 if we can get a young beast that will be with us 3-4 years., and will also depend on how Wyatt and Davis pan out.

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    For the front 3 2018 we have:
    Soph - Wyatt, Herring, Beal (?)
    JR - Rochester, Carter, Clark, Marshall, Young, Barnett (moved back last season)
    SR - Ledbetter, Hawkins-Muckle.

    There is a lot of both talent and experience amongst that group that should carry over to 2019 season. 1 more would be helpful but the cupboard is not bare.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @BamaDawg said:
    Does anyone thing that one of our highly recruited O-linemen will eventually switch to the D-line?

    Asking for a friend.....

    No. Usually works the other way around. DL to OL.

  • JKFlyfishJKFlyfish Posts: 558 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Denmen185 said:
    For the front 3 2018 we have:
    Soph - Wyatt, Herring, Beal (?)
    JR - Rochester, Carter, Clark, Marshall, Young, Barnett (moved back last season)
    SR - Ledbetter, Hawkins-Muckle.

    There is a lot of both talent and experience amongst that group that should carry over to 2019 season. 1 more would be helpful but the cupboard is not bare.

    Hmmm I was under the impression that Beal was going to be playing OLB, not interior d line? Is that right?

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @JKFlyfish said:

    @Denmen185 said:
    For the front 3 2018 we have:
    Soph - Wyatt, Herring, Beal (?)
    JR - Rochester, Carter, Clark, Marshall, Young, Barnett (moved back last season)
    SR - Ledbetter, Hawkins-Muckle.

    There is a lot of both talent and experience amongst that group that should carry over to 2019 season. 1 more would be helpful but the cupboard is not bare.

    Hmmm I was under the impression that Beal was going to be playing OLB, not interior d line? Is that right?

    We're fine at OLB/DE, we can't really lump in those positions with the interior where it takes 300lb guys though.
    The true interior players we'll have are..
    Hawkins-Muckle. The only dedicated NT
    Carter
    Clark
    Rochester
    Wyatt

    That leaves us with just a 2 deep rotation at DT and having to use one of them to sub at NT, that is razor thin unless Davis or Walthour is ready.

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @JKFlyfish said:

    @Denmen185 said:
    For the front 3 2018 we have:
    Soph - Wyatt, Herring, Beal (?)
    JR - Rochester, Carter, Clark, Marshall, Young, Barnett (moved back last season)
    SR - Ledbetter, Hawkins-Muckle.

    There is a lot of both talent and experience amongst that group that should carry over to 2019 season. 1 more would be helpful but the cupboard is not bare.

    Hmmm I was under the impression that Beal was going to be playing OLB, not interior d line? Is that right?

    We're fine at OLB/DE, we can't really lump in those positions with the interior where it takes 300lb guys though.
    The true interior players we'll have are..
    Hawkins-Muckle. The only dedicated NT
    Carter
    Clark
    Rochester
    Wyatt

    That leaves us with just a 2 deep rotation at DT and having to use one of them to sub at NT, that is razor thin unless Davis or Walthour is ready.

    Walthour?

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @donm said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @JKFlyfish said:

    @Denmen185 said:
    For the front 3 2018 we have:
    Soph - Wyatt, Herring, Beal (?)
    JR - Rochester, Carter, Clark, Marshall, Young, Barnett (moved back last season)
    SR - Ledbetter, Hawkins-Muckle.

    There is a lot of both talent and experience amongst that group that should carry over to 2019 season. 1 more would be helpful but the cupboard is not bare.

    Hmmm I was under the impression that Beal was going to be playing OLB, not interior d line? Is that right?

    We're fine at OLB/DE, we can't really lump in those positions with the interior where it takes 300lb guys though.
    The true interior players we'll have are..
    Hawkins-Muckle. The only dedicated NT
    Carter
    Clark
    Rochester
    Wyatt

    That leaves us with just a 2 deep rotation at DT and having to use one of them to sub at NT, that is razor thin unless Davis or Walthour is ready.

    Walthour?

    I listed both Davis and Walthour as potential rotation guys but you can't count on either being ready this coming season.

  • georgiaboygeorgiaboy Posts: 846 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @JKFlyfish said:

    @Denmen185 said:
    For the front 3 2018 we have:
    Soph - Wyatt, Herring, Beal (?)
    JR - Rochester, Carter, Clark, Marshall, Young, Barnett (moved back last season)
    SR - Ledbetter, Hawkins-Muckle.

    There is a lot of both talent and experience amongst that group that should carry over to 2019 season. 1 more would be helpful but the cupboard is not bare.

    Hmmm I was under the impression that Beal was going to be playing OLB, not interior d line? Is that right?

    We're fine at OLB/DE, we can't really lump in those positions with the interior where it takes 300lb guys though.
    The true interior players we'll have are..
    Hawkins-Muckle. The only dedicated NT
    Carter
    Clark
    Rochester
    Wyatt

    That leaves us with just a 2 deep rotation at DT and having to use one of them to sub at NT, that is razor thin unless Davis or Walthour is ready.

    So Herring, Marshall, Young and Ledbetter won't play this year? All of these guys have rotated in and played well to very well.

  • DawgsofWarDawgsofWar Posts: 2,077 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @georgiaboy said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @JKFlyfish said:

    @Denmen185 said:
    For the front 3 2018 we have:
    Soph - Wyatt, Herring, Beal (?)
    JR - Rochester, Carter, Clark, Marshall, Young, Barnett (moved back last season)
    SR - Ledbetter, Hawkins-Muckle.

    There is a lot of both talent and experience amongst that group that should carry over to 2019 season. 1 more would be helpful but the cupboard is not bare.

    Hmmm I was under the impression that Beal was going to be playing OLB, not interior d line? Is that right?

    We're fine at OLB/DE, we can't really lump in those positions with the interior where it takes 300lb guys though.
    The true interior players we'll have are..
    Hawkins-Muckle. The only dedicated NT
    Carter
    Clark
    Rochester
    Wyatt

    That leaves us with just a 2 deep rotation at DT and having to use one of them to sub at NT, that is razor thin unless Davis or Walthour is ready.

    So Herring, Marshall, Young and Ledbetter won't play this year? All of these guys have rotated in and played well to very well.

    Ledbetter will be one of the leaders of the defensive line. All those guys you listed will get lots of playing time and will contribute greatly.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @georgiaboy said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @JKFlyfish said:

    @Denmen185 said:
    For the front 3 2018 we have:
    Soph - Wyatt, Herring, Beal (?)
    JR - Rochester, Carter, Clark, Marshall, Young, Barnett (moved back last season)
    SR - Ledbetter, Hawkins-Muckle.

    There is a lot of both talent and experience amongst that group that should carry over to 2019 season. 1 more would be helpful but the cupboard is not bare.

    Hmmm I was under the impression that Beal was going to be playing OLB, not interior d line? Is that right?

    We're fine at OLB/DE, we can't really lump in those positions with the interior where it takes 300lb guys though.
    The true interior players we'll have are..
    Hawkins-Muckle. The only dedicated NT
    Carter
    Clark
    Rochester
    Wyatt

    That leaves us with just a 2 deep rotation at DT and having to use one of them to sub at NT, that is razor thin unless Davis or Walthour is ready.

    So Herring, Marshall, Young and Ledbetter won't play this year? All of these guys have rotated in and played well to very well.

    Those guys are not DTs or NTs, so they are not true interior linemen. They will play DE and in some cases ILB.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @DawgsofWar said:

    @georgiaboy said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @JKFlyfish said:

    @Denmen185 said:
    For the front 3 2018 we have:
    Soph - Wyatt, Herring, Beal (?)
    JR - Rochester, Carter, Clark, Marshall, Young, Barnett (moved back last season)
    SR - Ledbetter, Hawkins-Muckle.

    There is a lot of both talent and experience amongst that group that should carry over to 2019 season. 1 more would be helpful but the cupboard is not bare.

    Hmmm I was under the impression that Beal was going to be playing OLB, not interior d line? Is that right?

    We're fine at OLB/DE, we can't really lump in those positions with the interior where it takes 300lb guys though.
    The true interior players we'll have are..
    Hawkins-Muckle. The only dedicated NT
    Carter
    Clark
    Rochester
    Wyatt

    That leaves us with just a 2 deep rotation at DT and having to use one of them to sub at NT, that is razor thin unless Davis or Walthour is ready.

    So Herring, Marshall, Young and Ledbetter won't play this year? All of these guys have rotated in and played well to very well.

    Ledbetter will be one of the leaders of the defensive line. All those guys you listed will get lots of playing time and will contribute greatly.

    True, but none of them will be the 300lb interior DLs we have to have for our defense to work as it's designed to.

  • georgiaboygeorgiaboy Posts: 846 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @DawgsofWar said:

    @georgiaboy said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @JKFlyfish said:

    @Denmen185 said:
    For the front 3 2018 we have:
    Soph - Wyatt, Herring, Beal (?)
    JR - Rochester, Carter, Clark, Marshall, Young, Barnett (moved back last season)
    SR - Ledbetter, Hawkins-Muckle.

    There is a lot of both talent and experience amongst that group that should carry over to 2019 season. 1 more would be helpful but the cupboard is not bare.

    Hmmm I was under the impression that Beal was going to be playing OLB, not interior d line? Is that right?

    We're fine at OLB/DE, we can't really lump in those positions with the interior where it takes 300lb guys though.
    The true interior players we'll have are..
    Hawkins-Muckle. The only dedicated NT
    Carter
    Clark
    Rochester
    Wyatt

    That leaves us with just a 2 deep rotation at DT and having to use one of them to sub at NT, that is razor thin unless Davis or Walthour is ready.

    So Herring, Marshall, Young and Ledbetter won't play this year? All of these guys have rotated in and played well to very well.

    Ledbetter will be one of the leaders of the defensive line. All those guys you listed will get lots of playing time and will contribute greatly.

    I know that and you know that but obviously someone else doesn't.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @georgiaboy said:

    @DawgsofWar said:

    @georgiaboy said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @JKFlyfish said:

    @Denmen185 said:
    For the front 3 2018 we have:
    Soph - Wyatt, Herring, Beal (?)
    JR - Rochester, Carter, Clark, Marshall, Young, Barnett (moved back last season)
    SR - Ledbetter, Hawkins-Muckle.

    There is a lot of both talent and experience amongst that group that should carry over to 2019 season. 1 more would be helpful but the cupboard is not bare.

    Hmmm I was under the impression that Beal was going to be playing OLB, not interior d line? Is that right?

    We're fine at OLB/DE, we can't really lump in those positions with the interior where it takes 300lb guys though.
    The true interior players we'll have are..
    Hawkins-Muckle. The only dedicated NT
    Carter
    Clark
    Rochester
    Wyatt

    That leaves us with just a 2 deep rotation at DT and having to use one of them to sub at NT, that is razor thin unless Davis or Walthour is ready.

    So Herring, Marshall, Young and Ledbetter won't play this year? All of these guys have rotated in and played well to very well.

    Ledbetter will be one of the leaders of the defensive line. All those guys you listed will get lots of playing time and will contribute greatly.

    I know that and you know that but obviously someone else doesn't.

    Wow, I explained this, some people..

  • georgiaboygeorgiaboy Posts: 846 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @georgiaboy said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @JKFlyfish said:

    @Denmen185 said:
    For the front 3 2018 we have:
    Soph - Wyatt, Herring, Beal (?)
    JR - Rochester, Carter, Clark, Marshall, Young, Barnett (moved back last season)
    SR - Ledbetter, Hawkins-Muckle.

    There is a lot of both talent and experience amongst that group that should carry over to 2019 season. 1 more would be helpful but the cupboard is not bare.

    Hmmm I was under the impression that Beal was going to be playing OLB, not interior d line? Is that right?

    We're fine at OLB/DE, we can't really lump in those positions with the interior where it takes 300lb guys though.
    The true interior players we'll have are..
    Hawkins-Muckle. The only dedicated NT
    Carter
    Clark
    Rochester
    Wyatt

    That leaves us with just a 2 deep rotation at DT and having to use one of them to sub at NT, that is razor thin unless Davis or Walthour is ready.

    So Herring, Marshall, Young and Ledbetter won't play this year? All of these guys have rotated in and played well to very well.

    Those guys are not DTs or NTs, so they are not true interior linemen. They will play DE and in some cases ILB.

    I think you're mistaken. All of our dlinemen are interchangeable dt's, de's except the ones who are true nt's. Hawkins-Muckle and Rochester will be the primary nt's. All of the others can play dt or de. Fairly certain Marshall slid inside some when both Bellamy and Carter were on the field last year.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @georgiaboy said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @georgiaboy said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @JKFlyfish said:

    @Denmen185 said:
    For the front 3 2018 we have:
    Soph - Wyatt, Herring, Beal (?)
    JR - Rochester, Carter, Clark, Marshall, Young, Barnett (moved back last season)
    SR - Ledbetter, Hawkins-Muckle.

    There is a lot of both talent and experience amongst that group that should carry over to 2019 season. 1 more would be helpful but the cupboard is not bare.

    Hmmm I was under the impression that Beal was going to be playing OLB, not interior d line? Is that right?

    We're fine at OLB/DE, we can't really lump in those positions with the interior where it takes 300lb guys though.
    The true interior players we'll have are..
    Hawkins-Muckle. The only dedicated NT
    Carter
    Clark
    Rochester
    Wyatt

    That leaves us with just a 2 deep rotation at DT and having to use one of them to sub at NT, that is razor thin unless Davis or Walthour is ready.

    So Herring, Marshall, Young and Ledbetter won't play this year? All of these guys have rotated in and played well to very well.

    Those guys are not DTs or NTs, so they are not true interior linemen. They will play DE and in some cases ILB.

    I think you're mistaken. All of our dlinemen are interchangeable dt's, de's except the ones who are true nt's. Hawkins-Muckle and Rochester will be the primary nt's. All of the others can play dt or de. Fairly certain Marshall slid inside some when both Bellamy and Carter were on the field last year.

    No, I'm correct.
    I'm referring to the 3 interior positions that are constant in our defense.
    When we use any other alignment Marshall and other players will play to either side of these core interior players.
    Use common sense, have you ever seen us line up with 270lb players at those 3 positions ?

Sign In or Register to comment.