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Walthour?
I listed both Davis and Walthour as potential rotation guys but you can't count on either being ready this coming season.
So Herring, Marshall, Young and Ledbetter won't play this year? All of these guys have rotated in and played well to very well.
Ledbetter will be one of the leaders of the defensive line. All those guys you listed will get lots of playing time and will contribute greatly.
Those guys are not DTs or NTs, so they are not true interior linemen. They will play DE and in some cases ILB.
True, but none of them will be the 300lb interior DLs we have to have for our defense to work as it's designed to.
I know that and you know that but obviously someone else doesn't.
Wow, I explained this, some people..
I think you're mistaken. All of our dlinemen are interchangeable dt's, de's except the ones who are true nt's. Hawkins-Muckle and Rochester will be the primary nt's. All of the others can play dt or de. Fairly certain Marshall slid inside some when both Bellamy and Carter were on the field last year.
No, I'm correct.
I'm referring to the 3 interior positions that are constant in our defense.
When we use any other alignment Marshall and other players will play to either side of these core interior players.
Use common sense, have you ever seen us line up with 270lb players at those 3 positions ?
Rochester will actually play more nose along with Hawkins-Muckle. It's kinda thin but with the addition of Davis, three NT's is plenty. DT depth is actually really good right now, Clark, carter, wyatt and marshall playing a hybrid role of it. However Scott will have to pick up his weight on the 2019 DL recruiting cycle.
I can't pull up video on work computer but I believe if you look at the 2nd half of the Rose Bowl you'll see us playing a 5 man line... 3 down linemen and 2 outside backers. If I'm remembering that correctly tell me who is playing DT in that alignment. Ledbetter, Marshall, Clark and possibly Herring.
I think @WCDawg is mainly referring to a true nose tackle type player. Those in the 300-315 weight range. A guy just like Atkins who eats up blockers and the two gaps up the middle on early run downs, and allows players like Roquan and the other linebackers to make plays. A lot of our DTs are in the 270-285 range, and might not be able to hold up against the likes of Bama's interior linemen. They may work against lower tier teams, but against elite SEC lines it will be tough. That's why I think one of Sandidge or Davis is a must to fill out the class. I'm glad Wyatt was able to get on campus in December during bowl prep, he's probably going to be needed next year.
So, true nose guards= Hawkins-Muckle, Rochester and Wyatt. 3 deep.
I also get what he’s saying about DT but...several of our guys are listed as DL, not NT or DE. That means they move around, play different spots.
I just don’t think we’re in as bad a shape along the DL as some would like to make out.
My predictions:
Campbell - UGA
Walker - Vols
Reese - UGA
Davis - UGA
Sandidge - S. Caorlina
Bush - Baylor
Walthour - Junior college, not academically qualified
Thoughts?
With the increased use of the no-huddle and spread offenses, I think we'll have to use a defensive line with lighter, faster 3 play DT's (around 280 - 290 pounds) that can stay on the field. Still going to need some big NT's for teams that was to play power football.
The 2017 Depth chart shows
NT - Atkins, Rochester
LE - Thompson, Clark
RE - Ledbetter, Marshall, Carter.
2018 (AJC proj) shows
NT - Rochester, Wyatt
DT - Clark, Herring
DE - Ledbetter, Marshall, Cox
This does not include Barnett (DT), Hawkins-Muckle (NT/DT), Young (DE) or Young (DE).
The thing to understand is that the interior line is NOT 1 DE, 2 DT and 1 NT. that's 4 and we only ever played 3 (3-4 D) last year. 5 man front was 3 DL and 2 OLB or when we dropped to 4 man front it was 3 DL and 1 OLB. You either include the DE in your 3 man rotation or if you exclude the DE the DT/NT is a 2 man rotation.
NT - Rochester, Wyatt is the part that's worrying some folks (Hawkins-Muckle can be thrown in there to complete the 3 deep). Hawkins-Muckle is a senior who has contributed just a little his first 3 years, Rochester is a junior and could leave early with a good year, and Wyatt is already a sophomore. We need to infuse some young talent and allow them to develop a year or so before they're absolutely called upon. It's not a huge issue, but an injury or two and we're looking real thin all of a sudden. I understand that we play a 3-4 defense, but on early run downs Atkins was in there at NT with 1 DT and 1 DE to complete the 3. I don't think anyone thinks we play 4 man front, we are just saying NT, as some on here are lumping all the DTs as possible replacement for Atkins, which isn't the case.
Who was playing the 3 inside positions, that's the point.
The 4 guys I named right there for you along with Rochester, Atkins, Hawkins-Muckle, etc. Example across the line...Carter, Ledbetter, Atkins, Marshall, Bellamy.