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The Hawks are now said to be leaning to Doncic, is he really a safe pick ?..

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  • BigcalidawgBigcalidawg ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I honestly have no idea what they will do, since every player on the roster is fair game and they have 4 picks. Here goes nothin:

    Hawks take on Manimal and his big ol contract and nab #14 pick.

    Hawks trade #14, #19, and #34 and move back into top 10.

    Hawks draft Doncic at 3 and Trae Young.

    Pick up big at 30.

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  • WCDawgWCDawg ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @coastaldawg said:
    Didn't watch the Hawks last year and didn't watch any college games except UGAs. From what I know about Hawks roster, I'll just say that one player or one draft isn"t going to come close to turning them around. Need to draft whoever has the most potential to help them in the long run. Think there"s going to be a couple more years like last year before they build up their talent enough to compete.

    This may be the highest pick we get in a generation though.

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  • WCDawgWCDawg ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @donm said:

    @Thelordjohnson said:
    I also was high on Micheal Porter Jr until injuries.

    And if his injuries are healed?

    College ball would have been a proving ground for Porter, even without the injury.
    Watch video of him in hs, he played against very low competition. Most players he was beating looked to be under 6'0''.

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  • WCDawgWCDawg ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Thelordjohnson said:
    The safest pick in the draft and highest floor both come from Bagley. Jackson and Ayton have bust potential. Donic has a pretty high floor with the fact he has good court vision and when I look at PGs the scouts called non athletic (Kyrie and Steph) I would assume athletism doesn't beat out skill.

    Irving was extremely quick though, Doncic is not.

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  • WCDawgWCDawg ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I'm reading now that the interest in Doncic may well be as trade bait. The Hawks are apparently getting a lot of interest in the pick from teams who want him. The thinking is The Hawks would trade the rights to Doncic to a team in position to pick Young. The Hawks would end up with Young and more picks or a veteran player to boot.

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  • umoonerumooner ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @donm said:
    Isn’t he just 19. Isn’t that Euro-league pretty tough ? I don’t know if it’s tougher than D1, but it’s got to be close I think. Don’t see how the kid can miss. Still, there are two 6’11 kids that could help a lot. Can’t go wrong I don’t think.

    The Euro-League is considered the 2nd best in the world behind The NBA.
    Still, most players who come from there do not fair as well against NBA athletes, that is why trying to estimate the athletic component is important. It's not like going from The Eastern Conference to the Western Conference in The NBA.
    If he is The Hawks' pick, I'll be hopeful, I don't think he'll be a bust, but whether he'll be as valuable as some others on the board at #3 is another question.

    He’s younger than most of the Euroleague players that have come through though. There’s a bIf difference in drafting a 19 year old from the Euroleague as opposed to a 22 or 25 year old.

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  • WCDawgWCDawg ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @umooner said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @donm said:
    Isn’t he just 19. Isn’t that Euro-league pretty tough ? I don’t know if it’s tougher than D1, but it’s got to be close I think. Don’t see how the kid can miss. Still, there are two 6’11 kids that could help a lot. Can’t go wrong I don’t think.

    The Euro-League is considered the 2nd best in the world behind The NBA.
    Still, most players who come from there do not fair as well against NBA athletes, that is why trying to estimate the athletic component is important. It's not like going from The Eastern Conference to the Western Conference in The NBA.
    If he is The Hawks' pick, I'll be hopeful, I don't think he'll be a bust, but whether he'll be as valuable as some others on the board at #3 is another question.

    He’s younger than most of the Euroleague players that have come through though. There’s a bIf difference in drafting a 19 year old from the Euroleague as opposed to a 22 or 25 year old.

    No doubt his age is something to consider.
    What he's been doing since he was 16 years old is extremely impressive.
    The question remains though, how transferable are those results to The NBA, we can only evaluate the player and person, then take an educated guess. He is not very quick and he doesn't show a lot of lateral movement, but he does the things he does very well. He is in the same position as Trae Young, we know both have gifts, but can they make those strengths work against NBA defenders ?

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  • WCDawgWCDawg ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Another point about Doncic, he is clearly a rare talent as a passer. I don't see a Magic Johnson who orchestrates the floor though. I see a Jason Kidd who makes very accurate and creative passes within the flow of the game, which is like 2nd level thinking to Magic's 4th level thinking.

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  • ThelordjohnsonThelordjohnson ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @donm said:

    @Thelordjohnson said:
    I also was high on Micheal Porter Jr until injuries.

    And if his injuries are healed?

    Could be a special talent in 2 to 3 years. I think his opening years will be similar to KD with bad percentages and forced shots til he slows the game down in his head. Suspect defense as well. But still a talent.

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  • ThelordjohnsonThelordjohnson ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @donm said:
    Isn’t he just 19. Isn’t that Euro-league pretty tough ? I don’t know if it’s tougher than D1, but it’s got to be close I think. Don’t see how the kid can miss. Still, there are two 6’11 kids that could help a lot. Can’t go wrong I don’t think.

    The Euro-League is considered the 2nd best in the world behind The NBA.
    Still, most players who come from there do not fair as well against NBA athletes, that is why trying to estimate the athletic component is important. It's not like going from The Eastern Conference to the Western Conference in The NBA.
    If he is The Hawks' pick, I'll be hopeful, I don't think he'll be a bust, but whether he'll be as valuable as some others on the board at #3 is another question.

    I'd disagree pointing to Jonas in TOR. Vucevic in ORL, Dennis in ATL, both Gasol brothers, Dragic in Miami, Jokic, Porzingis, Gobert, Giannis... There are bust in NCAA as well as Euroleague. Scouting is the end all be all.

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  • BankwalkerBankwalker ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Even if he comes to Atlanta and becomes a perennial all=star, it won't really get me excited because of his foreign roots. 'Merica, Baby!

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  • KaseyKasey mod

    Atlanta should take doncic and flip him to Boston for scary Terry and a couple of these high picks Boston has in their possession.

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  • efreeman3efreeman3 ✭✭✭ Junior

    The Hawks GM should be arrested for robbery. Got Young and the Mavericks 1st round pick in 2019 just to move back two spots. Young has super star potential.

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  • HereSoIWontGetFinedHereSoIWontGetFined ✭✭✭ Junior

    The pick is 1-5 protected so we did not rob anybody by any stretch. I would have stuck with Doncic. He would have made me buy a ticket next year. 19 years old and MVP of the second best basketball league...screams potential to me. Trae young does not get me excited for this team at all. He is the riskiest pick in the draft. Reminds me of when the hawks drafted and traded Pau...

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  • donmdonm ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    With the 6’7” SG from Maryland, the Hawks are building a GS type thing. I wish that extra #1 wasn’t draft protected. It might still work out.

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