Free dawgpost article about the **** show Pruitt caused his last season at uga

WCDawg

@UnderDog68 said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

Then he goes to the U and does all the things we wanted him pick back up here. I’m happy with the change and happy for CMR too. But he created his own problems imo.

His hands were tied by the administration, who wanted more of an ambassador and CEO than someone who was 'hands-on.'

Well, he's actually doing about what he did at UGA.

ghostofuga1

@WCDawg said:

@ghostofuga1 said:

@MidtownDawg said:
IMO, the most powerful person in the UGA AD is the head coach.

Any resources that Kirby currently has that Richt did not is as much Richt's fault for not demanding as it is McGarity or any booster/admins fault for withholding.

Agree. The most powerful "people" in the UGA AD are the big time boosters. When there is a division with then, things can get a little dicey, and no one here can or will, convince me that boosters don't have any input into the AD decision making.

My take;

Boosters-

CMR - Good man. Good Coach. Good Leader. Not getting the program to the next level.

DC Pruitt- Good Coach. Headstrong. Not suitable for HC yet plus other issues.

Boosters to AD. " Make a Move.....or else..."

Conclusion:

Richt out, Smart in. Smart knows Pruitt......seeya!!

Boosters won!

Saban knew Pruitt, he said hiring him ''was a no brainer''.

Of course it was a "no brainer". When Kirby didn't retain Pruitt on his Staff, Pruitt was the best DC available to fill the spot Kirby vacated.

3rdshift

the perception that was created about cmr not being the one to win it all .....was overwhelming ...true or not...no one could overcome that...as soon as perception showed a hint of truth in w and l...it was over for him...prob the perception was fought off by the team for as long as possible...maybe the team started to believe the perception...o well ...all the coaches in this article were paid very well for their part in this fiasco.....the program is better for it....jp may have shot the horse...if not for him we may still be suffering ...limping along...

UnderDog68

@WCDawg said:

@UnderDog68 said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

Then he goes to the U and does all the things we wanted him pick back up here. I’m happy with the change and happy for CMR too. But he created his own problems imo.

His hands were tied by the administration, who wanted more of an ambassador and CEO than someone who was 'hands-on.'

Well, he's actually doing about what he did at UGA.

Yep. Last year, they had the inexplicable loss, the conference championship game loss, and the bowl loss all tied up in one neat package....Just like he used to do at UGA.

JayDog

@UnderDog68 said:

@WCDawg said:

@UnderDog68 said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

Then he goes to the U and does all the things we wanted him pick back up here. I’m happy with the change and happy for CMR too. But he created his own problems imo.

His hands were tied by the administration, who wanted more of an ambassador and CEO than someone who was 'hands-on.'

Well, he's actually doing about what he did at UGA.

Yep. Last year, they had the inexplicable loss, the conference championship game loss, and the bowl loss all tied up in one neat package....Just like he used to do at UGA.

I've had the joy of watching a UM friend lose it as my predictions of the above came true last season.

UnderDog68

@JayDog said:

@UnderDog68 said:

@WCDawg said:

@UnderDog68 said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

Then he goes to the U and does all the things we wanted him pick back up here. I’m happy with the change and happy for CMR too. But he created his own problems imo.

His hands were tied by the administration, who wanted more of an ambassador and CEO than someone who was 'hands-on.'

Well, he's actually doing about what he did at UGA.

Yep. Last year, they had the inexplicable loss, the conference championship game loss, and the bowl loss all tied up in one neat package....Just like he used to do at UGA.

I've had the joy of watching a UM friend lose it as my predictions of the above came true last season.

We tried to tell 'em.....But they were too busy proclaiming that 'Da U' was back because they hired one of their own.

Chip_Towers

No offense to DawgPost, but I've reported a lot of this on several different occasions, though more anecdotally usually, including this past week after Jeremy Pruitt's turn at SEC Media Days. There's a lot more that's not in Dean Legge's piece, too. Bottom line, Pruitt was an overbearing loose cannon on Georgia's campus and one who had the Bulldogs heading for trouble had he not been brought under control. That's why I think he could be great or awful for Tennessee, depending on how he operates without any meaningful checks and balances.

greygoose01

@Chip_Towers said:
No offense to DawgPost, but I've reported a lot of this on several different occasions, though more anecdotally usually, including this past week after Jeremy Pruitt's turn at SEC Media Days. There's a lot more that's not in Dean Legge's piece, too. Bottom line, Pruitt was an overbearing loose cannon on Georgia's campus and one who had the Bulldogs heading for trouble had he not been brought under control. That's why I think he could be great or awful for Tennessee, depending on how he operates without any meaningful checks and balances.

Fulmer vs Pruitt = clash of the titans scenario. Both are power hungry. Meanwhile, the dumpster fire continues to burn!

MIghtydawg

@Chip_Towers said:
No offense to DawgPost, but I've reported a lot of this on several different occasions, though more anecdotally usually, including this past week after Jeremy Pruitt's turn at SEC Media Days. There's a lot more that's not in Dean Legge's piece, too. Bottom line, Pruitt was an overbearing loose cannon on Georgia's campus and one who had the Bulldogs heading for trouble had he not been brought under control. That's why I think he could be great or awful for Tennessee, depending on how he operates without any meaningful checks and balances.

Chip, we want to juicy details. Can you do a story that gives us all of the juicy details?

MidtownDawg

@greygoose01 said:

@Chip_Towers said:
No offense to DawgPost, but I've reported a lot of this on several different occasions, though more anecdotally usually, including this past week after Jeremy Pruitt's turn at SEC Media Days. There's a lot more that's not in Dean Legge's piece, too. Bottom line, Pruitt was an overbearing loose cannon on Georgia's campus and one who had the Bulldogs heading for trouble had he not been brought under control. That's why I think he could be great or awful for Tennessee, depending on how he operates without any meaningful checks and balances.

Fulmer vs Pruitt = clash of the titans scenario. Both are power hungry. Meanwhile, the dumpster fire continues to burn!

One alternate, non red and black glasses take here would be to say that Pruitt has been loose under loose leaders and great under strict leaders like Saban. If you believe that, then a large part of his success or failure at UT could be determined by Fulmer's leadership style and whether it is more akin to Saban or CMR.

WCDawg

@ghostofuga1 said:

@WCDawg said:

@ghostofuga1 said:

@MidtownDawg said:
IMO, the most powerful person in the UGA AD is the head coach.

Any resources that Kirby currently has that Richt did not is as much Richt's fault for not demanding as it is McGarity or any booster/admins fault for withholding.

Agree. The most powerful "people" in the UGA AD are the big time boosters. When there is a division with then, things can get a little dicey, and no one here can or will, convince me that boosters don't have any input into the AD decision making.

My take;

Boosters-

CMR - Good man. Good Coach. Good Leader. Not getting the program to the next level.

DC Pruitt- Good Coach. Headstrong. Not suitable for HC yet plus other issues.

Boosters to AD. " Make a Move.....or else..."

Conclusion:

Richt out, Smart in. Smart knows Pruitt......seeya!!

Boosters won!

Saban knew Pruitt, he said hiring him ''was a no brainer''.

Of course it was a "no brainer". When Kirby didn't retain Pruitt on his Staff, Pruitt was the best DC available to fill the spot Kirby vacated.

I'm not sure you see my point. Others suggest Pruitt was a virtual leper, yet he was Saban's clear #1 and Saban knew him well.

pgjackson

CMR has always been a Tom Landry kind of coach. Very cerebral, analytical and stoically clam no matter what. That drives the hot-heads crazy. Hyper-aggressive people have difficulty dealing with stoics. They interpret calmness as a lack of concern or disinterest. Pruitt and CMR were never going to get along. Too much personality conflict.

pgjackson

@BojanglesInsider said:
Reading that article confirms what we know's gonna happen at rocky top. Fulmer vs Pruitt showdown!!!!111oneone

I'm not sure the biggest threat is a power struggle between Pruitt and Fulmer. I think the biggest threat is major NCAA violations. That program is absolutely desperate for relevancy. They need to win and win big now. We know what Fulmer is capable of regarding program oversight when he was a coach...now he's in charge of the whole dang athletic department. And the rules are even tighter since he last coached. Couple that with a hot-head new coach with very little experience and it smells like trouble ready to blow-up. I will bet a soda that UT will get major NCAA sanctions within 3 years.

donm

@pgjackson said:
CMR has always been a Tom Landry kind of coach. Very cerebral, analytical and stoically clam no matter what. That drives the hot-heads crazy. Hyper-aggressive people have difficulty dealing with stoics. They interpret calmness as a lack of concern or disinterest. Pruitt and CMR were never going to get along. Too much personality conflict.

@pgjackson said:
CMR has always been a Tom Landry kind of coach. Very cerebral, analytical and stoically clam no matter what. That drives the hot-heads crazy. Hyper-aggressive people have difficulty dealing with stoics. They interpret calmness as a lack of concern or disinterest. Pruitt and CMR were never going to get along. Too much personality conflict.

Well, he wouldn't have had that particular problem with CKS, for sure. But Kirby knew what he wasn't getting into, that's for sure. He wanted none of it.

ghostofuga1

@WCDawg said:

@ghostofuga1 said:

@WCDawg said:

@ghostofuga1 said:

@MidtownDawg said:
IMO, the most powerful person in the UGA AD is the head coach.

Any resources that Kirby currently has that Richt did not is as much Richt's fault for not demanding as it is McGarity or any booster/admins fault for withholding.

Agree. The most powerful "people" in the UGA AD are the big time boosters. When there is a division with then, things can get a little dicey, and no one here can or will, convince me that boosters don't have any input into the AD decision making.

My take;

Boosters-

CMR - Good man. Good Coach. Good Leader. Not getting the program to the next level.

DC Pruitt- Good Coach. Headstrong. Not suitable for HC yet plus other issues.

Boosters to AD. " Make a Move.....or else..."

Conclusion:

Richt out, Smart in. Smart knows Pruitt......seeya!!

Boosters won!

Saban knew Pruitt, he said hiring him ''was a no brainer''.

Of course it was a "no brainer". When Kirby didn't retain Pruitt on his Staff, Pruitt was the best DC available to fill the spot Kirby vacated.

I'm not sure you see my point. Others suggest Pruitt was a virtual leper, yet he was Saban's clear #1 and Saban knew him well.

I understand your point, but Saban looks past leprosy to fill his voids. Kiffen from USC to Bama. Pruitt from UGA to Bama. Butch Jones from UT to Bama (for whatever reason).....

Saban looks past baggage and hire's who can fill the void when he needs it most. With this said, my point is and has been, that UGA did not want to retain Pruitt nor did Kirby. When the Big Boys talk, the AD listens....