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Hes not gone yet dude , he may not even go. Pump the brakes , lets wait and see. We will be fine either way!
He has said that; however, when many posters share their “evaluations” of his development they use his reactions over a few peculiar snaps and that’s what I’m questioning.
None of us are at practice. We have reports and coach speak and the little snaps but there continues to be “he hasn’t developed or shown anything” comments... I’m just asking - how can they make that assessment.
Justin Fields = Cam Newton or Matt Stafford. I'm not saying he'll be a first round draft pick... but both of those guys had incredible physical tools and had to work their asses off to improve at reading defenses and making good decisions in games.
Jake Fromm = Drew Brees or Tom Brady. I'm not saying he'll be a 10+ year NFL starter, but those are all examples of talented but not "first round pick" talented guys who had a quicker/easier time reading defenses and learning to make good decisions.
That decision making is the hardest thing for a QB to get... and the most important thing for a QB to have success. You can have elite physical talent like JaMarcuss Russell, Ryan Leaf or Vince YOung... but those guys never were able to get good enough at the decision making side and were busts. Meanwhile a guy who clearly lacked NFL talent like Chad Pennington can have a long NFL career despite a noodle arm because he did have the decision making side down pat.
In the Rose Bowl last year... we had a True Freshman QB making audibles into big plays after reading the defense... while OU had a Heisman winner who looked to the sideline before each snap to see what the coach wanted him to call.
Fromm's ability to read the defense and adjust at the line and his ability to know where to go with the ball during the play are a talent that isn't common. Most people have to develop that over years. He had it better than most Senior QB's do as a True Freshman. And that ability is the most important factor in playing QB... not being a fast runner or having a rocket arm.
Yes... you'd love a guy like both. John Elway was an example of that. But if you don't have both you take Drew Brees over Matt Stafford.
Fields doesn't have that yet. He doesn't make multiple reads and runs way too quickly under pressure. You don't bench the guy with the proven decision making for the one who doesn't have it but has talent and hope it develops. I remember when Texas did that by benching Major Applewhite in favor of Chris Simms. It was the wrong move.
Nicely done. Thanks for being so clear. I know you and I see this as stating the obvious, but it must not be obvious to everyone.
Go, Dawgs!
Every coach since the beginning of time has said that about their QBs. Do you think Smart would say in public "yeah, he's not really improving...." It's "coach-speak". I'm sure Fields works hard and has improved...the problem for him is that the #1 guy works harder and has improved more.
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THIS!
That's what I think is the problem. Fields may look like a hero in practice, but in a game he panics. Lots of guys look great in practice, or 7-on-7 drills....but in a live situation where the stress and danger is real they can't think fast enough. You can't look Fields in the AP game and then look at him at the end of the year and honestly believe he got any better.
Spot on!
Now this is something I can understand.
From my brief background in amateur boxing, you can look like a superstar sparring, then when it's tournament time - your nerves show up and you cant throw a punch. So I get that analogy....
The only thing you can do is keep getting put in those situations until it's gets better.
Whether it's with UGA or not, I hope Fields continues to develop.
Yep. Football is a combat sport. It's one of the few sports where gametime is completely different than practice. When people are actively trying to hurt you, that changes everything.
I think Kirby gave Fields plenty of opportunities to get game experience, but he kept regressing to what he knows best...one read then take off running. And that will work marvelously in other systems, but not in our system. I thought he came here to learn to be a pocket passer. Looks like he just wants to play as soon as possible and be a typical running QB.
Truly EXCELLENT assessment. Well done. What one hopes to get from 'nation forum. Thank you.
Totally agree. This is our New Years Day Bowl! And I know 60 other power 5 teams that would love to be in our shoes.
For people to dismiss this Bowl as meaningless, I would like to remind them that the Sugar Bowl is one of the original five, is the half-way point for both teams, and is the premier New Years Day bowl. It might even carry higher ratings than the semi-final games. Georgia is a very popular team nationally (look at the number of states we recruited in), just scheduled a home & home with Texas, and last played each other in 1984. So I think there will be a tremendous amount of interst and curiosity by both fan bases.
Plus, the game is in New Orleans. Party!
Are you.........my son? Son! Finally!
This is a great point about the Fields camp. Their silence about a lot of things is deafening. They could of squashed a lot of this. The only reason I'm not ready to dump on Fields yet is because Kirby wants him to stay. I think he has royally screwed up though. I also think he might be starting to realize it too. We don't know how much of this is coming from him, or the people around him. I kind of hate it's dominating everything though. That alone makes me kind of resent him.
Please don't let Godwin's mom take anything that young man has done for UGA both on and off the field. He's been stellar in every way and couldn't of been a better DGD.
I understand what you are saying but... It's never unimportant when the Dawgs are on a football field.
I actually disagree with his running ability. It's ok... but he's no Mike Vick or Cam Newton. I'd grade him better than average in that category.
This is the other edge of Fields' disruptiveness. Not only do we not need the constant pandering to his wishes, he is divisive to the fan base and worst of all, internally. The more I think about it the more it seems apparent Fields says a lot behind the back.
Hope he goes to OSU. Will be a big fan of Martell.
Just sound like a hater now, smh