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Brad Komminsk
There ya go. Mr. Stiffness himself.
Good article on Komminsk, although the ‘net is unclear on his current status. Some sources say he is the hitting coach for AAA Norfolk in the Orioles system.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.baseballamerica.com/stories/where-are-they-now-brad-komminsk/%3famphtml
Turner allowed management to sign Terry Pendleton, Greg Maddux, Fred McGriff, Marques Grissom and Otis Nixon. All were keys to that great 90s run of success.
Time Warner made an early commitment by forking over the dough to sign Kenny Lofton and Andres Galarraga. After that the few big FA signings were not very productive.
Yeah you're right, Time Warner took over the team, Turner didn't have anything to do with that company. Turner learned to let the baseball guys takeover and then the team experienced success. You named some failed contracts (which team doesn't have any failed contracts?), but with the amount of players from those teams heading to the HoF, I'd say they signed some good contracts too.
Teddy, Pendleton, Maddux, Grissom, McGriff, Nixon. The Braves made some great moves in trades and free agency Schuerholtz's and Cox's tenures as GM and manager. Ted's job was to give them the resources to make it happen.
The Nixon trade was truly amazing, albeit no one saw that level of impact coming.
In case y'all hadn't heard, Bobby Cox had a **** yesterday and is currently in the hospital. No details are being released but it doesn't sound like a great situation. If you're the praying type, I'm sure he and his family could use the support.
(Forgive me if this was already posted but I didn't see it anywhere.)
Stro ke
Thanks Dooster! Had no idea it got censored. (SMH)
Here is something to consider when evaluating the Cox-Schuerholz tandem.
Cox retired in 2010. In 2011 Dan Uggla was given a huge contract. In 2013 BJ Upton and Justin Upton were given huge contracts. Have we made any really good free agent signings since Bobby stepped down as manager ?
Bobby was also the one who stacked the farm system that created the 1991 pitching staff. Schuerholz was clearly good, but they were a great team.
Markakis was a solid signing. But no, they haven't done well with the very few players they've signed for average to above average money. There's not many they sign for any money these days.
True, Markakis was a good pick up. So was Anibal Sanchez last year.
This is frequently your MO, Teddy.
You claimed 14 straight years because of Ted. I simply gave you a fact.
I didn’t say he was the only reason. You named a few bad contracts he signed. What person in the FO hasn’t signed some bad deals? But he sure forked over a lot more money for a lot more good players than bad to help the team out.
Pendleton and Bream were minor acquisitions who blew up. Otis Nixon (.297) hit 34 points higher as a Brave than any previous year of his career, and stole 22 more bases. They were supposed to be veterans to provide leadership for the young guys, but TP won the MVP. Totally unexpected, and without his career years in Atlanta the streak you mentioned would have never started. Maddux probably doesnt even sign with the Braves without the 91/92 trips to the World Series, which were the result of luckily signinng role players who blew up and young pitchers maturing, not because we had a great owner throwing money around.
@Bankwalker So, no credit for players picked up that performed well/better than some thought they would. All blame for those that didn't perform. Did I get that right? Seems fair.
No. You did not get that right.
Can you be more clear regarding how much credit you are assigning to Ted Turner? All of it? Did I get that right?
Turner was a better owner than Liberty, but he wasn’t known for fielding winning teams. He cared about winning but it wasnt until he stepped aside that the franchise took off. The Braves didnt go on their streak because of Ted’s willingness to spend on additions. It was the farm system Cox built that allowed for extra money in the budget for a guy like McGriff.
I'm not placing a value on Ted, other than he was an great asset for the most part. Just pointing out that you've blamed all bad contracts on him. And where there was success you give the credit to anyone else besides him.