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  • dradcliffdradcliff Posts: 604 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    They lied so that the public would not buy all the mask that medical workers need. They only offer a small amount of perfection to me, so that was not a lie. Covering the face does however stop spray into the air from sneezing, coughing, or t .alking. If it is not in the air then I can only catch by touching something that the virus is on then touching my face. I can the learn to not touch my face, and adjust to washing my hands. I can not controll what is in the air. I do not believe covering my face will help if someone sneezes or coughs near by.

  • dradcliffdradcliff Posts: 604 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    That's why I would start with a warning, then fines along with giving them a mask. You could add educational component.

  • pocoyopocoyo Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Kidney cells express a lot of ACE2 which is the receptor the virus uses to enter cells.

  • dragonslayerdragonslayer Posts: 711 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I am not aware of any in patients that did not have severe pneumonia (viral). Given that patients are (in general) not responding well to ARDS treatment, and some respected authorities are pointing to some features of HAPE, I'm not ready to characterize as [typical] ARDS. However, to my knowledge, no one is looking yet at mild, moderate, or asymptomatic infections for permanent impairments as a result of SARS-Co2 infection. I think it's a good question and should be investigated eventually.

    Organ impairment is generally believed to be a result of the extremely low and sustained oxygen saturation these patients have suffered.

    It's true that most masks are not effective for preventing infection for the wearer; however, they do deflect and absorb secretions FROM the wearer, thus help prevent transmission. Therefore, if everyone wears them they have an effect on the rate of infection.

  • RedDawgRedDawg Posts: 952 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @dradcliff I get the mask thing, but it should be up to individuals whether they comply or not...so if a business wants to post a rule saying they wont serve you/you cannot enter the store without a mask then that is their decision. but if someone is hiking on a trail/sitting in a beach chair trying to not get a mask tan, then arresting/fining them is ludicrous . Rules should not be generalized as there are too many individual circumstances and places where it makes no sense.


    One of the reasons i like the local governments being responsible for their own populations. a rule for New York does not make sense in rural colorado...etc etc. Likewise...Denver rules should not be forced on that whole state.


    I personally dont see any reason why a mask is hard to comply with, should just be a general public "manners" type thing.....but you start fining folks or arresting them over it and you'll undoubtedly create protests against it....

  • ghostofuga1ghostofuga1 Posts: 9,214 mod

    What will banks do when they reopen their lobbies? Are mask allowed? Or will we see retro fit bullet proof safety measures with sliding draws like the drive through?


    Hmmm?

  • dradcliffdradcliff Posts: 604 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Once in the air Covid can stay for several minutes. When walking outside on a trail or anywhere if someone sneezes or coughs anyone that walks through that area for the next several minute risks exposure even if their face is covered. Wearing a mask is to easy of a solution to not do it just because people don't like being told they have too. For the time being it is a public health hazard to be in public without a face covering.

  • CaliforniaDawgCaliforniaDawg Posts: 674 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I didn't know this and thanks for sharing. It makes me rethink the need for a mask while out on trails.

  • RedDawgRedDawg Posts: 952 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I understand and agree.

    im just saying a fine for it will cause protests and I don't think that will help... folks are jobless and going into debt; on the brink of eviction/having vehicles repo'd, cant afford cell phone or internet bills and then get slapped with a ticket for not covering their face....its not gonna go over well.... going out into public should be a risk even us mask wearing folks need to consider....to consider that someone else may not be wearing one and we may end up downwind from them.


    asking people to do their part and help eachother stay safe by wearing a mask gives folks a since of community and neighborly honor/pride when they comply.


    punishment for not complying is when you get folks that want to prove you wrong/rebel.


    I prefer positive reinforcement over negative.


    how about wear a mask and get 10% off your order...and things like this? theres a better way to encourage folks to consider their neighbors well being than pointing a gun at them.

  • GrayDawgGrayDawg Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    What else are they lying about? That's not the way you gain the trust of the public. In fact, that's a quick way to lose what trust you may have had.

  • dradcliffdradcliff Posts: 604 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The CDC has recommended wearing face coverings yet when I go out I would say, less than 50% are wearing mask. It is actually being talked about by a doctor on Finebaum right now. What a coincidence.

  • Canedawg2140Canedawg2140 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Well, if Paul says it, it must be gospel...

  • dradcliffdradcliff Posts: 604 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I don't want to leave my health and safety up to someone else's social conscience. People know that smoking is bad for people around them yet they still do it. People drive drunk. I at least want to know that if someone is putting my health at risk that there may be some kind of consequence. Kind of like when someone speeds past me or weaving through traffic, I just hope that I see them pulled over down the road.

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