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Otis Reese statement.

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  • RxDawgRxDawg Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I agree with all of that, except when you say there is "no cost to UGA". The program is investing time, energy, and money into the player. These are not infinite resources.

  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 18,310 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    That is true, but the terms of the agreement are for one year. UGA has to factor in all those costs when recruiting players. That's why teams generally invest more money into recruiting better players, and the teams that invest more money into recruiting generally have more success on the field. It took UGA a few years to figure that out. The payback is that the player promises to attend UGA for a year and participate in the football program. Even if the kid never starts, he supported the team by providing better competition in practice to the actual starters (iron sharpens iron), and serves as a viable backup in games (depth).

    In short, yes there is a cost...but it's paid back by the student once the scholarship year is over.

    Newman is the guy I'm more upset about. How much time and effort did we put into that guy, only for him to say "eh, nevermind" at the last minute? We got nothing out of that deal.

  • RxDawgRxDawg Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Good point. I keep viewing this as a 4 year commitment. When in reality it's a 1 year commitment with the expectancy of renewal x4.

  • TeddyTeddy Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Yes, there is costs for UGA, but players trade their student-athlete services for those costs. Some folks are ignoring this, as I’m sure Reese has a lot of blood, sweat, and tears into his training/team/studies. That’s what he traded UGA for his one-year scholarship.

    And as I told Casanova earlier, the “trade” of goods and services (listed above) has already taken place before the player transfers, so no school is going to compensate the other school for a transfer.

    If an employee leaves a company after a year or two, does the company charge the new employer a transfer fee, since they had to spend time/money on training them, HR expenses, Indeed/LinkedIn recruitment costs, etc.? Didn’t think so.

  • ftn49ftn49 Posts: 466 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    In the vast majority (99.9%) I'm sure you are right, however there are instances where it does happen. Ever watch moneyball? The Peter Brandt character is included in a trade, not a player but a personnel guy. I know it happens from time to time in business too. And while you are technically correct on the 1 year contract vs the 4 year contract I don't think it is that cut and dry. I would imagine looking into the contract that it is up to the university's discretion whether or not the contract is optioned for extra years rather than the players otherwise there would be no stopping the "free agency" aspect of transfers. I've never been a scholarship athlete so I don't know that for a fact however I doubt the players go and sign a new contract every year.

  • TeddyTeddy Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Yeah, I generally speak to the 99.9%, not the 0.1%. And yes, it’s up to the school if they want to add additional years onto it, but it’s also up to the player if they want to say “no thanks” and leave.

  • ftn49ftn49 Posts: 466 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Yes The player is free to go elsewhere but they have to have a release to go anywhere they want without repercussions.

  • AndersonDawgAndersonDawg Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Nobody but the parties involved know what really transpired. That said, since OR decided to throw UGA under the bus, I hope the SEC denies his waiver request and he begins his Ole Miss adventure next year.

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