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Now that NIL has consumed the collegiate level…

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  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 18,796 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Here's a great article on the subject. When you read the whole thing (it's pretty long)....NIL seems to be a piece of almost every big topic.

    Why 2021 was a year of constant upheaval for college football (espn.com)

  • PlayHurtPlayHurt Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited January 2022

    Why should I, a season ticket holder for 35+ years, donate to a scholarship fund for student athletes that are in position to make more money a year than I do? Maybe those receiving NIL money should have to use that money to pay back the school for the room/board, meals, tuition, medical, etc. Maybe they should pay for their equipment, too. This NIL & transfer portal has already started negatively affecting college football. But they’ve already opened Pandora’s box. I may never send another dime to the school. Definitely going to reconsider.

  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 18,796 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The good news is that NIL has nothing to do with the school itself. All that money comes from outside sources.

  • jmarlinjmarlin Posts: 279 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I like it... instead of giving a scholarship, the coach just sets up an NIL deal that pays for all expenses and then uses the freed up scholarships to hoard more players or get better practice squad or whatever.


    Note that this might mess with title IV too. UGA gives a zillion scholarships to weird female sports (sports are weird, not for weird females) like equestrian or something. If the big male sports aren't using those scholarships, either they cut the girl scholarships (because they have to be even) or maybe they bring back wrestling and other male sports that were cut since title IV.

  • HemingweyHemingwey Posts: 4,189 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Most of the scholarship athletes are unlikely to see substantial income from NIL. These young men are the core of any program—though they may not be the “stars”. Just sayin’.

  • PlayHurtPlayHurt Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Don’t know how that’s good news. I’m not going to send money to support 5* athlete’s education if he’s making money off of an NIL. Too much double dipping going on in this country now just to add to it.

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 29,715 mod

    And I’m sure after our first national championship in 41 years there will be folks lining up to take your place. Not sure why you’re so up in arms about this.

    Football and basketball help all other sports. If these players can make some walking around money or help take care of their family while they are in school I don’t see what all the hand wringing is about.

  • TeddyTeddy Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    First, it's not really UGA's fault all of this is happening, so penalizing them by no longer financially supporting them doesn't make sense, IMO.

    Secondly, let's say Stetson theoretically makes $100k on deals, you think he should spend a lot of it back by paying for his school/board/meals (not to mention taxes he has to pay)? I mean he, along with many others, helped win a natty that will generate an ungodly amount of revenue for UGA for years to come. If what you propose ever happened at UGA, I hope you all truly enjoy this championship, as it will be the last winning season you ever witness from the Dawgs.

    Lastly, 2019-2020 fiscal year - UGA football generated $134,463,859 – Expenses $48,501,193 (and this is a down year with covid restricting home game attendance/revenue). You don't think there's some wiggle room for players to make some money? Most of these players are probably going to make the amount of money they would if they could have a part-time job. Do you know these athletes leave their dorm rooms around 6 AM and get back around 10 PM (weightlifting/training, classes, study hall, practice, film room, team meetings, position meetings, etc.)? Guess they need to work the nightshift to earn some money. Only a very select few will make Bryce Young and Travis Hunter type money. So, it's 98% positive, let's not ruin it for the players that need a few extra bucks, all because a few are making bank.

  • TeddyTeddy Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    These athletes help more than just sports, they get new academic buildings built, academic scholarships, dorms, etc. UGA football/athletics gives millions every year back to the school to use for non-athletic endeavors. Does everyone know what winning a National Championship does for enrollment? It's been proven that there is an uptick in demand for the school and enrollment, allowing the school to profit even more off great football teams.

  • PlayHurtPlayHurt Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Nope, there won’t be lines of fans to take my place once they see how much is asked to be donated BEFORE you’re even offered to PURCHASE season tickets. It’s pretty expensive and not for your Walmart fan.

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 29,715 mod

    Wow. Good to know what you think of the fanbase. Entitled much?

  • PlayHurtPlayHurt Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    No more entitled than anyone else but I have paid my dues, and of course by my choice. I never stopped donating even during the rough times in the 90’s. Just saying I foresee the NIL & transfer portal to be detrimental to the sports they’re associated with. What draws fans to college sports, football especially, is seeing the athletes play for the LOVE of the game and to use it to earn an education when they don’t make it professionally. And if they happen to be in the VERY small percentage that makes it to the professional level, it’s because they received the best training (facilities & coaches) to do so. And this was/has been provided by donors. Now, the college has become a minor league system to the NFL for football. It all looks fine now as UGA is on top. I’ll be interested to see how you would look at it if we were struggling like South Carolina or Georgia Tech. Winning cures/hides a lot but only temporarily. Honestly, I hope we never see it as bad as uscjr & tek. But you’d better hold on tight if we do.

  • TeddyTeddy Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    So, it’s ok to get into facility wars and spending top dollar on staff hires, but only provide a very small percentage of the pie in scholarships to players?

    Players can love the game AND also like getting paid. They’re not mutually exclusive.

  • DawgwiredDawgwired Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    How many schools can do that ? Very small %. Start a G league and see what happens. Let those that want unlimited access to money have that opportunity. It would dry up quick. I know I wouldn’t watch it. Give me scholarship players plus a little spending money capped with no booster influence. Maybe true nil but not blanket pay for play.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Everyone should have the right to own their name, image, and likeness including college athletes, so getting rid of NIL is a non-starter for most people that appreciate freedom and liberty. Currently, NIL rules are allowing boosters to essentially guarantee a certain amount of money for top athletes during the recruitment process. We can all thank the NCAA for this who fought it for decades even as public opinion had changed against them, but this also only affects a tiny fraction college athletes. For most athletes it works the way we had probably envisioned which is you get famous locally and do some local ads and events or have a social media presence which you can now monetize. NCAA can tailor rules to stop the pseudo contracts given to these top players and schools can help teach these kids how to manage large sums of money at a young age. I haven't really seen a change in quality of play, and I'll continue to support whoever UGA puts on the field. NIL hasn't been the downfall of college athletics that some predicted.

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