Looks like their learning allot at the UGA

AndersonDawg · January 2019

None of this matters. AOC says world will end in a dozen years anyway.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-calls-climate-change-our-world-war-ii-warns-the-world-will-end-in-12-years

RxDawg · January 2019

She smart

SoFL_Dawg · January 2019

@Teddy said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@Teddy said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:
Racism exists on both sides of the fence. No such thing as reverse racism, it’s just racism. We all see color, fact. Most choose not to make their decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact. In the south, there’s a higher % of those who choose to make decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact.

People live in fear on both sides of the fence. Many blacks fear whites. Many whites fear blacks. Virtually no one wants to acknowledge the fear, which perpetuates cycles of cultural misunderstandings. You build a wall out of fear. You don’t talk to the cops out of fear. You don’t go into certain neighborhoods out of fear...get the gist?

Forms of bigotry exists in most of us, deriving from a lack of understanding of each other’s cultures. By definition, simply labeling folks as left or right (liberal or conservative) is a form of bigotry especially in today’s America; the lines in the sand are drawn, and by in large the principles are defended vs. individual topics. I’d wager virtually everyone on this board is liberal about certain things, conservative about others. Human nature. Inject political rhetoric into discussion and the line is drawn across the board, void of zero desire to understand the counter argument.

The OP, is sharing from his vantage point. I don’t ageee with violence, if it’s not self defense, but if anyone can show me any movement in the history our country that wasn’t born of violence, I’ll hang up and listen. I believe, this TA, is reflecting on historical use of violence to try and invoke change. It’s misguided, but he is entitled to his thoughts. I’m a firm believer we have to interact with folks who don’t look like us to better understand them, without that, nothing changes.

Yes, the TA is free to believe whatever he wants. But someone who thinks white people need to die shouldn't be molding future generations... HitIer thought a certain race(s) should die, do you want him teaching at UGA? After all, he's free to believe what he wants, and did change history with violence... How do you think it would go for a white professor saying that he thinks black people need to die to better our society? Kinda sounds like the KKK doesn't it?

I agree. If I read correctly, I did just read the cliffs as that’s all the attention I wanted to devote to it, he made that statement from a personal FB account. I do not believe he’s teaching these principles at UGA. If I’m wrong, admin should take immediate corrective action.

If I’m right, he’s no different than David Duke, and only is relevant if we lend him an audience.

Again, what do you think would happen to a white TA that posted on Facebook that black people need to die in order to advance our society?

I think what you’re not factoring in here is history Teddy. Black people have already been killed in masses for the advancement of American society; slavery. You’re taking the position that it should be equal, you’re not wrong, but it also doesn’t make you right. Too complicated for a message board discussion but I know you can read between the lines there. Fear in this country is not equal. I’ve worked closely with young kids, Black, White, Hispanic and it’s disheartening what they know and how they view their place in society.

For the record, understanding that he posted from an official site, he should be terminated so UGA can seperate itself from the views of an individual.

AndersonDawg · January 2019

@RxDawg said:
She smart

Unfortunately, she is the role model many young people look up to.

SoFL_Dawg · January 2019

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@Teddy said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:
Racism exists on both sides of the fence. No such thing as reverse racism, it’s just racism. We all see color, fact. Most choose not to make their decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact. In the south, there’s a higher % of those who choose to make decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact.

People live in fear on both sides of the fence. Many blacks fear whites. Many whites fear blacks. Virtually no one wants to acknowledge the fear, which perpetuates cycles of cultural misunderstandings. You build a wall out of fear. You don’t talk to the cops out of fear. You don’t go into certain neighborhoods out of fear...get the gist?

Forms of bigotry exists in most of us, deriving from a lack of understanding of each other’s cultures. By definition, simply labeling folks as left or right (liberal or conservative) is a form of bigotry especially in today’s America; the lines in the sand are drawn, and by in large the principles are defended vs. individual topics. I’d wager virtually everyone on this board is liberal about certain things, conservative about others. Human nature. Inject political rhetoric into discussion and the line is drawn across the board, void of zero desire to understand the counter argument.

The OP, is sharing from his vantage point. I don’t ageee with violence, if it’s not self defense, but if anyone can show me any movement in the history our country that wasn’t born of violence, I’ll hang up and listen. I believe, this TA, is reflecting on historical use of violence to try and invoke change. It’s misguided, but he is entitled to his thoughts. I’m a firm believer we have to interact with folks who don’t look like us to better understand them, without that, nothing changes.

Yes, the TA is free to believe whatever he wants. But someone who thinks white people need to die shouldn't be molding future generations... HitIer thought a certain race(s) should die, do you want him teaching at UGA? After all, he's free to believe what he wants, and did change history with violence... How do you think it would go for a white professor saying that he thinks black people need to die to better our society? Kinda sounds like the KKK doesn't it?

I agree. If I read correctly, I did just read the cliffs as that’s all the attention I wanted to devote to it, he made that statement from a personal FB account. I do not believe he’s teaching these principles at UGA. If I’m wrong, admin should take immediate corrective action.

If I’m right, he’s no different than David Duke, and only is relevant if we lend him an audience.

If I read it correctly the first post(s) was from some kinda of official social media account. It was removed and then he doubled down on his personal account when questioned about it.

You are correct that changes often comes along with violence, but this guy is using change to morally justify violence, past or present, against “white people.” Ends justifying the means logic can be used to morally validate literally anything you want. That is a dangerous person. If you think he is only this way on his personal account and not in the classroom I think you are being naive.

Being a graduate of UGA, I doubt highly he was teaching these principles in the classroom, especially as a TA. If he was, you’re right, I am naive, and would be extremely disappointed in my school. I need further evidence to support that he was in fact teaching in classroom and I reserve my right to change my opinion as the facts change.

AndersonDawg · January 2019

Enough of this crap. How ‘bout those Mets.

SoFL_Dawg · January 2019

@AndersonDawg said:
Enough of this crap. How ‘bout those Mets.

In a microcosm, this statement is exactly why “this” will never end. You’re right though, this is too heavy for this message board but it does involve the school we represent.

VaBeachDawg · January 2019

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@Teddy said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:
Racism exists on both sides of the fence. No such thing as reverse racism, it’s just racism. We all see color, fact. Most choose not to make their decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact. In the south, there’s a higher % of those who choose to make decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact.

People live in fear on both sides of the fence. Many blacks fear whites. Many whites fear blacks. Virtually no one wants to acknowledge the fear, which perpetuates cycles of cultural misunderstandings. You build a wall out of fear. You don’t talk to the cops out of fear. You don’t go into certain neighborhoods out of fear...get the gist?

Forms of bigotry exists in most of us, deriving from a lack of understanding of each other’s cultures. By definition, simply labeling folks as left or right (liberal or conservative) is a form of bigotry especially in today’s America; the lines in the sand are drawn, and by in large the principles are defended vs. individual topics. I’d wager virtually everyone on this board is liberal about certain things, conservative about others. Human nature. Inject political rhetoric into discussion and the line is drawn across the board, void of zero desire to understand the counter argument.

The OP, is sharing from his vantage point. I don’t ageee with violence, if it’s not self defense, but if anyone can show me any movement in the history our country that wasn’t born of violence, I’ll hang up and listen. I believe, this TA, is reflecting on historical use of violence to try and invoke change. It’s misguided, but he is entitled to his thoughts. I’m a firm believer we have to interact with folks who don’t look like us to better understand them, without that, nothing changes.

Yes, the TA is free to believe whatever he wants. But someone who thinks white people need to die shouldn't be molding future generations... HitIer thought a certain race(s) should die, do you want him teaching at UGA? After all, he's free to believe what he wants, and did change history with violence... How do you think it would go for a white professor saying that he thinks black people need to die to better our society? Kinda sounds like the KKK doesn't it?

I agree. If I read correctly, I did just read the cliffs as that’s all the attention I wanted to devote to it, he made that statement from a personal FB account. I do not believe he’s teaching these principles at UGA. If I’m wrong, admin should take immediate corrective action.

If I’m right, he’s no different than David Duke, and only is relevant if we lend him an audience.

If I read it correctly the first post(s) was from some kinda of official social media account. It was removed and then he doubled down on his personal account when questioned about it.

You are correct that changes often comes along with violence, but this guy is using change to morally justify violence, past or present, against “white people.” Ends justifying the means logic can be used to morally validate literally anything you want. That is a dangerous person. If you think he is only this way on his personal account and not in the classroom I think you are being naive.

Being a graduate of UGA, I doubt highly he was teaching these principles in the classroom, especially as a TA. If he was, you’re right, I am naive, and would be extremely disappointed in my school. I need further evidence to support that he was in fact teaching in classroom and I reserve my right to change my opinion as the facts change.

I agree it’s not part of curriculum or anything, but back in my day I had a biology professor who would spend the first 15 minutes of every lecture updating all 400 of us on the days current events and how **** George W Bush was. Personal opinion is injected everywhere, sometimes it’s just more forward than others.

SoFL_Dawg · January 2019

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@Teddy said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:
Racism exists on both sides of the fence. No such thing as reverse racism, it’s just racism. We all see color, fact. Most choose not to make their decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact. In the south, there’s a higher % of those who choose to make decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact.

People live in fear on both sides of the fence. Many blacks fear whites. Many whites fear blacks. Virtually no one wants to acknowledge the fear, which perpetuates cycles of cultural misunderstandings. You build a wall out of fear. You don’t talk to the cops out of fear. You don’t go into certain neighborhoods out of fear...get the gist?

Forms of bigotry exists in most of us, deriving from a lack of understanding of each other’s cultures. By definition, simply labeling folks as left or right (liberal or conservative) is a form of bigotry especially in today’s America; the lines in the sand are drawn, and by in large the principles are defended vs. individual topics. I’d wager virtually everyone on this board is liberal about certain things, conservative about others. Human nature. Inject political rhetoric into discussion and the line is drawn across the board, void of zero desire to understand the counter argument.

The OP, is sharing from his vantage point. I don’t ageee with violence, if it’s not self defense, but if anyone can show me any movement in the history our country that wasn’t born of violence, I’ll hang up and listen. I believe, this TA, is reflecting on historical use of violence to try and invoke change. It’s misguided, but he is entitled to his thoughts. I’m a firm believer we have to interact with folks who don’t look like us to better understand them, without that, nothing changes.

Yes, the TA is free to believe whatever he wants. But someone who thinks white people need to die shouldn't be molding future generations... HitIer thought a certain race(s) should die, do you want him teaching at UGA? After all, he's free to believe what he wants, and did change history with violence... How do you think it would go for a white professor saying that he thinks black people need to die to better our society? Kinda sounds like the KKK doesn't it?

I agree. If I read correctly, I did just read the cliffs as that’s all the attention I wanted to devote to it, he made that statement from a personal FB account. I do not believe he’s teaching these principles at UGA. If I’m wrong, admin should take immediate corrective action.

If I’m right, he’s no different than David Duke, and only is relevant if we lend him an audience.

If I read it correctly the first post(s) was from some kinda of official social media account. It was removed and then he doubled down on his personal account when questioned about it.

You are correct that changes often comes along with violence, but this guy is using change to morally justify violence, past or present, against “white people.” Ends justifying the means logic can be used to morally validate literally anything you want. That is a dangerous person. If you think he is only this way on his personal account and not in the classroom I think you are being naive.

Being a graduate of UGA, I doubt highly he was teaching these principles in the classroom, especially as a TA. If he was, you’re right, I am naive, and would be extremely disappointed in my school. I need further evidence to support that he was in fact teaching in classroom and I reserve my right to change my opinion as the facts change.

I agree it’s not part of curriculum or anything, but back in my day I had a biology professor who would spend the first 15 minutes of every lecture updating all 400 of us on the days current events and how **** George W Bush was. Personal opinion is injected everywhere, sometimes it’s just more forward than others.

Think about the demographic majority of UGA. How do you think expressing that opinion in a classroom would go over?

VaBeachDawg · January 2019

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@Teddy said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:
Racism exists on both sides of the fence. No such thing as reverse racism, it’s just racism. We all see color, fact. Most choose not to make their decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact. In the south, there’s a higher % of those who choose to make decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact.

People live in fear on both sides of the fence. Many blacks fear whites. Many whites fear blacks. Virtually no one wants to acknowledge the fear, which perpetuates cycles of cultural misunderstandings. You build a wall out of fear. You don’t talk to the cops out of fear. You don’t go into certain neighborhoods out of fear...get the gist?

Forms of bigotry exists in most of us, deriving from a lack of understanding of each other’s cultures. By definition, simply labeling folks as left or right (liberal or conservative) is a form of bigotry especially in today’s America; the lines in the sand are drawn, and by in large the principles are defended vs. individual topics. I’d wager virtually everyone on this board is liberal about certain things, conservative about others. Human nature. Inject political rhetoric into discussion and the line is drawn across the board, void of zero desire to understand the counter argument.

The OP, is sharing from his vantage point. I don’t ageee with violence, if it’s not self defense, but if anyone can show me any movement in the history our country that wasn’t born of violence, I’ll hang up and listen. I believe, this TA, is reflecting on historical use of violence to try and invoke change. It’s misguided, but he is entitled to his thoughts. I’m a firm believer we have to interact with folks who don’t look like us to better understand them, without that, nothing changes.

Yes, the TA is free to believe whatever he wants. But someone who thinks white people need to die shouldn't be molding future generations... HitIer thought a certain race(s) should die, do you want him teaching at UGA? After all, he's free to believe what he wants, and did change history with violence... How do you think it would go for a white professor saying that he thinks black people need to die to better our society? Kinda sounds like the KKK doesn't it?

I agree. If I read correctly, I did just read the cliffs as that’s all the attention I wanted to devote to it, he made that statement from a personal FB account. I do not believe he’s teaching these principles at UGA. If I’m wrong, admin should take immediate corrective action.

If I’m right, he’s no different than David Duke, and only is relevant if we lend him an audience.

If I read it correctly the first post(s) was from some kinda of official social media account. It was removed and then he doubled down on his personal account when questioned about it.

You are correct that changes often comes along with violence, but this guy is using change to morally justify violence, past or present, against “white people.” Ends justifying the means logic can be used to morally validate literally anything you want. That is a dangerous person. If you think he is only this way on his personal account and not in the classroom I think you are being naive.

Being a graduate of UGA, I doubt highly he was teaching these principles in the classroom, especially as a TA. If he was, you’re right, I am naive, and would be extremely disappointed in my school. I need further evidence to support that he was in fact teaching in classroom and I reserve my right to change my opinion as the facts change.

I agree it’s not part of curriculum or anything, but back in my day I had a biology professor who would spend the first 15 minutes of every lecture updating all 400 of us on the days current events and how **** George W Bush was. Personal opinion is injected everywhere, sometimes it’s just more forward than others.

Think about the demographic majority of UGA. How do you think expressing that opinion in a classroom would go over?

I get where you are coming from, but you are talking about young people who are yet to be grounded in any principles from their specific life experiences (by and large) and are in the middle of an environment where challenging the status quo and being progressive minded is not only encouraged its celebrated.

VaBeachDawg · January 2019

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@Teddy said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:
Racism exists on both sides of the fence. No such thing as reverse racism, it’s just racism. We all see color, fact. Most choose not to make their decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact. In the south, there’s a higher % of those who choose to make decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact.

People live in fear on both sides of the fence. Many blacks fear whites. Many whites fear blacks. Virtually no one wants to acknowledge the fear, which perpetuates cycles of cultural misunderstandings. You build a wall out of fear. You don’t talk to the cops out of fear. You don’t go into certain neighborhoods out of fear...get the gist?

Forms of bigotry exists in most of us, deriving from a lack of understanding of each other’s cultures. By definition, simply labeling folks as left or right (liberal or conservative) is a form of bigotry especially in today’s America; the lines in the sand are drawn, and by in large the principles are defended vs. individual topics. I’d wager virtually everyone on this board is liberal about certain things, conservative about others. Human nature. Inject political rhetoric into discussion and the line is drawn across the board, void of zero desire to understand the counter argument.

The OP, is sharing from his vantage point. I don’t ageee with violence, if it’s not self defense, but if anyone can show me any movement in the history our country that wasn’t born of violence, I’ll hang up and listen. I believe, this TA, is reflecting on historical use of violence to try and invoke change. It’s misguided, but he is entitled to his thoughts. I’m a firm believer we have to interact with folks who don’t look like us to better understand them, without that, nothing changes.

Yes, the TA is free to believe whatever he wants. But someone who thinks white people need to die shouldn't be molding future generations... HitIer thought a certain race(s) should die, do you want him teaching at UGA? After all, he's free to believe what he wants, and did change history with violence... How do you think it would go for a white professor saying that he thinks black people need to die to better our society? Kinda sounds like the KKK doesn't it?

I agree. If I read correctly, I did just read the cliffs as that’s all the attention I wanted to devote to it, he made that statement from a personal FB account. I do not believe he’s teaching these principles at UGA. If I’m wrong, admin should take immediate corrective action.

If I’m right, he’s no different than David Duke, and only is relevant if we lend him an audience.

If I read it correctly the first post(s) was from some kinda of official social media account. It was removed and then he doubled down on his personal account when questioned about it.

You are correct that changes often comes along with violence, but this guy is using change to morally justify violence, past or present, against “white people.” Ends justifying the means logic can be used to morally validate literally anything you want. That is a dangerous person. If you think he is only this way on his personal account and not in the classroom I think you are being naive.

Being a graduate of UGA, I doubt highly he was teaching these principles in the classroom, especially as a TA. If he was, you’re right, I am naive, and would be extremely disappointed in my school. I need further evidence to support that he was in fact teaching in classroom and I reserve my right to change my opinion as the facts change.

I agree it’s not part of curriculum or anything, but back in my day I had a biology professor who would spend the first 15 minutes of every lecture updating all 400 of us on the days current events and how **** George W Bush was. Personal opinion is injected everywhere, sometimes it’s just more forward than others.

Think about the demographic majority of UGA. How do you think expressing that opinion in a classroom would go over?

I get where you are coming from, but you are talking about young people who are yet to be grounded in any principles from their specific life experiences (by and large) and are in the middle of an environment where challenging the status quo and being progressive minded is not only encouraged its celebrated.

And to reinforce my point just look at the schools responses to these two situations: Sasser was bounced almost right away, this guy was immediately defended by the school sighting his first amendment rights. That sets the tone whether it’s right or not.

Casanova_Flatulence · January 2019

@dawgitimafan said:
http://amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/18/university-georgia-ta-some-white-people-may-have-d/#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s

The University of Georgia administration should fire him immediately. If they can dismiss a scholar athlete for similar racist comments the same should hold true for faculty. There should be no double standard applied here.

Casanova_Flatulence · January 2019

@EricDawgs1 said:

@Bankwalker said:

@EricDawgs1 said:

This is America. You can say it's not but ask any black person especially in the south.this is how it is.

Those may be examples of how some people perceive things, but it doesnt mean a majority hold those views. Asking a black person if that is true doesnt make it so. There are probably more black people who think white people think that way than actual white people who really do think that way. As a result, blacks tend to keep themselves segregated for no reason and live with anger they have self imposed on themselves.

You cant be prejudice against white people? That’s a really sad statement. Show love and it will usually be returned.

Are you kidding?we're the ones who live this life.look at the NFL coaching hires.5 black coaches and not 1 black hired.Mia fired their coach and the next week he's the jets coach.qhen was the last time a white coach got fired after 1 or 2 seasons? Den. and Az just dis it to 2 blacks.how many black HC are in the Sec? It is what it is.

It sounds like you're in favor of hiring quotas based on race, correct? If that's the case then you must be in favor of the NBA hiring a lot more white players to match the overall American demographic, right?

Teddy · January 2019

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@Teddy said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@Teddy said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:
Racism exists on both sides of the fence. No such thing as reverse racism, it’s just racism. We all see color, fact. Most choose not to make their decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact. In the south, there’s a higher % of those who choose to make decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact.

People live in fear on both sides of the fence. Many blacks fear whites. Many whites fear blacks. Virtually no one wants to acknowledge the fear, which perpetuates cycles of cultural misunderstandings. You build a wall out of fear. You don’t talk to the cops out of fear. You don’t go into certain neighborhoods out of fear...get the gist?

Forms of bigotry exists in most of us, deriving from a lack of understanding of each other’s cultures. By definition, simply labeling folks as left or right (liberal or conservative) is a form of bigotry especially in today’s America; the lines in the sand are drawn, and by in large the principles are defended vs. individual topics. I’d wager virtually everyone on this board is liberal about certain things, conservative about others. Human nature. Inject political rhetoric into discussion and the line is drawn across the board, void of zero desire to understand the counter argument.

The OP, is sharing from his vantage point. I don’t ageee with violence, if it’s not self defense, but if anyone can show me any movement in the history our country that wasn’t born of violence, I’ll hang up and listen. I believe, this TA, is reflecting on historical use of violence to try and invoke change. It’s misguided, but he is entitled to his thoughts. I’m a firm believer we have to interact with folks who don’t look like us to better understand them, without that, nothing changes.

Yes, the TA is free to believe whatever he wants. But someone who thinks white people need to die shouldn't be molding future generations... HitIer thought a certain race(s) should die, do you want him teaching at UGA? After all, he's free to believe what he wants, and did change history with violence... How do you think it would go for a white professor saying that he thinks black people need to die to better our society? Kinda sounds like the KKK doesn't it?

I agree. If I read correctly, I did just read the cliffs as that’s all the attention I wanted to devote to it, he made that statement from a personal FB account. I do not believe he’s teaching these principles at UGA. If I’m wrong, admin should take immediate corrective action.

If I’m right, he’s no different than David Duke, and only is relevant if we lend him an audience.

Again, what do you think would happen to a white TA that posted on Facebook that black people need to die in order to advance our society?

I think what you’re not factoring in here is history Teddy. Black people have already been killed in masses for the advancement of American society; slavery. You’re taking the position that it should be equal, you’re not wrong, but it also doesn’t make you right. Too complicated for a message board discussion but I know you can read between the lines there. Fear in this country is not equal. I’ve worked closely with young kids, Black, White, Hispanic and it’s disheartening what they know and how they view their place in society.

For the record, understanding that he posted from an official site, he should be terminated so UGA can seperate itself from the views of an individual.

Sorry that I think things should be equal, my bad. I'm not sure what slavery has to do with this discussion. As I don't need to understand history to know that nowhere in our society should we accept someone saying a certain race needs to die, it's really that simple. It was your "ho-hum" reaction to what this educator said and were still ok with him keeping his position at a public university that made me reply to you. For the record, I agree with the rest of your OP.

SoFL_Dawg · January 2019

@VaBeachDawg said:

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@Teddy said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:
Racism exists on both sides of the fence. No such thing as reverse racism, it’s just racism. We all see color, fact. Most choose not to make their decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact. In the south, there’s a higher % of those who choose to make decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact.

People live in fear on both sides of the fence. Many blacks fear whites. Many whites fear blacks. Virtually no one wants to acknowledge the fear, which perpetuates cycles of cultural misunderstandings. You build a wall out of fear. You don’t talk to the cops out of fear. You don’t go into certain neighborhoods out of fear...get the gist?

Forms of bigotry exists in most of us, deriving from a lack of understanding of each other’s cultures. By definition, simply labeling folks as left or right (liberal or conservative) is a form of bigotry especially in today’s America; the lines in the sand are drawn, and by in large the principles are defended vs. individual topics. I’d wager virtually everyone on this board is liberal about certain things, conservative about others. Human nature. Inject political rhetoric into discussion and the line is drawn across the board, void of zero desire to understand the counter argument.

The OP, is sharing from his vantage point. I don’t ageee with violence, if it’s not self defense, but if anyone can show me any movement in the history our country that wasn’t born of violence, I’ll hang up and listen. I believe, this TA, is reflecting on historical use of violence to try and invoke change. It’s misguided, but he is entitled to his thoughts. I’m a firm believer we have to interact with folks who don’t look like us to better understand them, without that, nothing changes.

Yes, the TA is free to believe whatever he wants. But someone who thinks white people need to die shouldn't be molding future generations... HitIer thought a certain race(s) should die, do you want him teaching at UGA? After all, he's free to believe what he wants, and did change history with violence... How do you think it would go for a white professor saying that he thinks black people need to die to better our society? Kinda sounds like the KKK doesn't it?

I agree. If I read correctly, I did just read the cliffs as that’s all the attention I wanted to devote to it, he made that statement from a personal FB account. I do not believe he’s teaching these principles at UGA. If I’m wrong, admin should take immediate corrective action.

If I’m right, he’s no different than David Duke, and only is relevant if we lend him an audience.

If I read it correctly the first post(s) was from some kinda of official social media account. It was removed and then he doubled down on his personal account when questioned about it.

You are correct that changes often comes along with violence, but this guy is using change to morally justify violence, past or present, against “white people.” Ends justifying the means logic can be used to morally validate literally anything you want. That is a dangerous person. If you think he is only this way on his personal account and not in the classroom I think you are being naive.

Being a graduate of UGA, I doubt highly he was teaching these principles in the classroom, especially as a TA. If he was, you’re right, I am naive, and would be extremely disappointed in my school. I need further evidence to support that he was in fact teaching in classroom and I reserve my right to change my opinion as the facts change.

I agree it’s not part of curriculum or anything, but back in my day I had a biology professor who would spend the first 15 minutes of every lecture updating all 400 of us on the days current events and how **** George W Bush was. Personal opinion is injected everywhere, sometimes it’s just more forward than others.

Think about the demographic majority of UGA. How do you think expressing that opinion in a classroom would go over?

I get where you are coming from, but you are talking about young people who are yet to be grounded in any principles from their specific life experiences (by and large) and are in the middle of an environment where challenging the status quo and being progressive minded is not only encouraged its celebrated.

And to reinforce my point just look at the schools responses to these two situations: Sasser was bounced almost right away, this guy was immediately defended by the school sighting his first amendment rights. That sets the tone whether it’s right or not.

I agree. It’s not fair or right, but every reasonable mind knew Sasser was done at UGA immediately. Not much at UGA is more important than football, although you’ll never hear that mentioned by anyone of stature. Let’s see what happens to the TA in next few weeks before drawing conclusions. I’d imagine this is a hot topic right now.

BamaDawg · January 2019

@EricDawgs1 said:

@BamaDawg said:

@EricDawgs1 said:

@Raiderbeater1 said:

@PlayHurt said:
Wow. Looks like EVERY white athlete in any sport at UGA could now transfer out and play immediately at the next school.

I’ve heard it’s impossible to be marginalized as a white person. No such thing as prejudice against a white person....so I’ve been told.

That's right when you have been privileged since 400yrs ago.it will never be a fair playing field in America. It's not hate what I'm saying but just truth.

That's the lazy way out. Blame it on the past.

By the way, where did you get 400 years? Unless I am mistaken the United States has only been a county for about 242 years (give or take).

Had slaves b4 America was a country over here.how you think stuff got built whites **** sure didnt do it.

Wow, now I have to bear the burden for something that happen in another country hundreds of years ago. Will it never end? As for slaves only being black, i bet the Jews in Egypt would argue with you or maybe the slaves the Chinese use to build the Great Wall. Why dont we just blame women for everything, supposedly eve did eat the apple first.

Casanova_Flatulence · January 2019

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@VaBeachDawg said:

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@Teddy said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:
Racism exists on both sides of the fence. No such thing as reverse racism, it’s just racism. We all see color, fact. Most choose not to make their decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact. In the south, there’s a higher % of those who choose to make decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact.

People live in fear on both sides of the fence. Many blacks fear whites. Many whites fear blacks. Virtually no one wants to acknowledge the fear, which perpetuates cycles of cultural misunderstandings. You build a wall out of fear. You don’t talk to the cops out of fear. You don’t go into certain neighborhoods out of fear...get the gist?

Forms of bigotry exists in most of us, deriving from a lack of understanding of each other’s cultures. By definition, simply labeling folks as left or right (liberal or conservative) is a form of bigotry especially in today’s America; the lines in the sand are drawn, and by in large the principles are defended vs. individual topics. I’d wager virtually everyone on this board is liberal about certain things, conservative about others. Human nature. Inject political rhetoric into discussion and the line is drawn across the board, void of zero desire to understand the counter argument.

The OP, is sharing from his vantage point. I don’t ageee with violence, if it’s not self defense, but if anyone can show me any movement in the history our country that wasn’t born of violence, I’ll hang up and listen. I believe, this TA, is reflecting on historical use of violence to try and invoke change. It’s misguided, but he is entitled to his thoughts. I’m a firm believer we have to interact with folks who don’t look like us to better understand them, without that, nothing changes.

Yes, the TA is free to believe whatever he wants. But someone who thinks white people need to die shouldn't be molding future generations... HitIer thought a certain race(s) should die, do you want him teaching at UGA? After all, he's free to believe what he wants, and did change history with violence... How do you think it would go for a white professor saying that he thinks black people need to die to better our society? Kinda sounds like the KKK doesn't it?

I agree. If I read correctly, I did just read the cliffs as that’s all the attention I wanted to devote to it, he made that statement from a personal FB account. I do not believe he’s teaching these principles at UGA. If I’m wrong, admin should take immediate corrective action.

If I’m right, he’s no different than David Duke, and only is relevant if we lend him an audience.

If I read it correctly the first post(s) was from some kinda of official social media account. It was removed and then he doubled down on his personal account when questioned about it.

You are correct that changes often comes along with violence, but this guy is using change to morally justify violence, past or present, against “white people.” Ends justifying the means logic can be used to morally validate literally anything you want. That is a dangerous person. If you think he is only this way on his personal account and not in the classroom I think you are being naive.

Being a graduate of UGA, I doubt highly he was teaching these principles in the classroom, especially as a TA. If he was, you’re right, I am naive, and would be extremely disappointed in my school. I need further evidence to support that he was in fact teaching in classroom and I reserve my right to change my opinion as the facts change.

I agree it’s not part of curriculum or anything, but back in my day I had a biology professor who would spend the first 15 minutes of every lecture updating all 400 of us on the days current events and how **** George W Bush was. Personal opinion is injected everywhere, sometimes it’s just more forward than others.

Think about the demographic majority of UGA. How do you think expressing that opinion in a classroom would go over?

I get where you are coming from, but you are talking about young people who are yet to be grounded in any principles from their specific life experiences (by and large) and are in the middle of an environment where challenging the status quo and being progressive minded is not only encouraged its celebrated.

And to reinforce my point just look at the schools responses to these two situations: Sasser was bounced almost right away, this guy was immediately defended by the school sighting his first amendment rights. That sets the tone whether it’s right or not.

I agree. It’s not fair or right, but every reasonable mind knew Sasser was done at UGA immediately. Not much at UGA is more important than football, although you’ll never hear that mentioned by anyone of stature. Let’s see what happens to the TA in next few weeks before drawing conclusions. I’d imagine this is a hot topic right now.

Why should we have to wait weeks to draw conclusions? The Baseball player was gone within days. Sasser's thoughts are crystal clear and it's apparent this isn't his first episode of racially toxic rhetoric. There's absolutely no room for interpretation or a double standard.

SoFL_Dawg · January 2019

@Teddy said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@Teddy said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@Teddy said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:
Racism exists on both sides of the fence. No such thing as reverse racism, it’s just racism. We all see color, fact. Most choose not to make their decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact. In the south, there’s a higher % of those who choose to make decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact.

People live in fear on both sides of the fence. Many blacks fear whites. Many whites fear blacks. Virtually no one wants to acknowledge the fear, which perpetuates cycles of cultural misunderstandings. You build a wall out of fear. You don’t talk to the cops out of fear. You don’t go into certain neighborhoods out of fear...get the gist?

Forms of bigotry exists in most of us, deriving from a lack of understanding of each other’s cultures. By definition, simply labeling folks as left or right (liberal or conservative) is a form of bigotry especially in today’s America; the lines in the sand are drawn, and by in large the principles are defended vs. individual topics. I’d wager virtually everyone on this board is liberal about certain things, conservative about others. Human nature. Inject political rhetoric into discussion and the line is drawn across the board, void of zero desire to understand the counter argument.

The OP, is sharing from his vantage point. I don’t ageee with violence, if it’s not self defense, but if anyone can show me any movement in the history our country that wasn’t born of violence, I’ll hang up and listen. I believe, this TA, is reflecting on historical use of violence to try and invoke change. It’s misguided, but he is entitled to his thoughts. I’m a firm believer we have to interact with folks who don’t look like us to better understand them, without that, nothing changes.

Yes, the TA is free to believe whatever he wants. But someone who thinks white people need to die shouldn't be molding future generations... HitIer thought a certain race(s) should die, do you want him teaching at UGA? After all, he's free to believe what he wants, and did change history with violence... How do you think it would go for a white professor saying that he thinks black people need to die to better our society? Kinda sounds like the KKK doesn't it?

I agree. If I read correctly, I did just read the cliffs as that’s all the attention I wanted to devote to it, he made that statement from a personal FB account. I do not believe he’s teaching these principles at UGA. If I’m wrong, admin should take immediate corrective action.

If I’m right, he’s no different than David Duke, and only is relevant if we lend him an audience.

Again, what do you think would happen to a white TA that posted on Facebook that black people need to die in order to advance our society?

I think what you’re not factoring in here is history Teddy. Black people have already been killed in masses for the advancement of American society; slavery. You’re taking the position that it should be equal, you’re not wrong, but it also doesn’t make you right. Too complicated for a message board discussion but I know you can read between the lines there. Fear in this country is not equal. I’ve worked closely with young kids, Black, White, Hispanic and it’s disheartening what they know and how they view their place in society.

For the record, understanding that he posted from an official site, he should be terminated so UGA can seperate itself from the views of an individual.

Sorry that I think things should be equal, my bad. I'm not sure what slavery has to do with this discussion. As I don't need to understand history to know that nowhere in our society should we accept someone saying a certain race needs to die, it's really that simple. It was your "ho-hum" reaction to what this educator said and were still ok with him keeping his position at a public university that made me reply to you. For the record, I agree with the rest of your OP.

Ho-hum? I’ll need you to define that. No need to patronize either, I get what you’re trying to say. You may not want to admit it but you know full well what slavery has to do with this. It’s the reason you chose to draw the parallel with Hitler and his persecution of Jews. Oppression is oppression. The Genesis of oppression of the black American is slavery; that’s the root of it all. In the south, it’s called culture and heritage. How can one ask black folks to get over slavery if the same won’t let the civil war go? We can ignore that if we choose to, but it’s the elephant in the room. Native Americans probably feel the same way, their collective voices just aren’t loud enough because they were eradicated.

My take on the TA I’ve already stated. I’m not dismissing what he feels, but I’m dismissing his importance. I also believe he’ll be dismissed by the university in short order, especially if he was teaching this in the classroom. If you want me to grab my gun and camp out, I’m not going to do that. I don’t feel the need to give him any more credence than he’s already received. I’d imagine that he’s already won in his mind; he wanted exposure for his inflammatory statement. He’s misguided, but who am I to tell him how he should feel or think?

SoFL_Dawg · January 2019

@Casanova_Flatulence said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@VaBeachDawg said:

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@VaBeachDawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@Teddy said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:
Racism exists on both sides of the fence. No such thing as reverse racism, it’s just racism. We all see color, fact. Most choose not to make their decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact. In the south, there’s a higher % of those who choose to make decisions based on color, I believe that is a fact.

People live in fear on both sides of the fence. Many blacks fear whites. Many whites fear blacks. Virtually no one wants to acknowledge the fear, which perpetuates cycles of cultural misunderstandings. You build a wall out of fear. You don’t talk to the cops out of fear. You don’t go into certain neighborhoods out of fear...get the gist?

Forms of bigotry exists in most of us, deriving from a lack of understanding of each other’s cultures. By definition, simply labeling folks as left or right (liberal or conservative) is a form of bigotry especially in today’s America; the lines in the sand are drawn, and by in large the principles are defended vs. individual topics. I’d wager virtually everyone on this board is liberal about certain things, conservative about others. Human nature. Inject political rhetoric into discussion and the line is drawn across the board, void of zero desire to understand the counter argument.

The OP, is sharing from his vantage point. I don’t ageee with violence, if it’s not self defense, but if anyone can show me any movement in the history our country that wasn’t born of violence, I’ll hang up and listen. I believe, this TA, is reflecting on historical use of violence to try and invoke change. It’s misguided, but he is entitled to his thoughts. I’m a firm believer we have to interact with folks who don’t look like us to better understand them, without that, nothing changes.

Yes, the TA is free to believe whatever he wants. But someone who thinks white people need to die shouldn't be molding future generations... HitIer thought a certain race(s) should die, do you want him teaching at UGA? After all, he's free to believe what he wants, and did change history with violence... How do you think it would go for a white professor saying that he thinks black people need to die to better our society? Kinda sounds like the KKK doesn't it?

I agree. If I read correctly, I did just read the cliffs as that’s all the attention I wanted to devote to it, he made that statement from a personal FB account. I do not believe he’s teaching these principles at UGA. If I’m wrong, admin should take immediate corrective action.

If I’m right, he’s no different than David Duke, and only is relevant if we lend him an audience.

If I read it correctly the first post(s) was from some kinda of official social media account. It was removed and then he doubled down on his personal account when questioned about it.

You are correct that changes often comes along with violence, but this guy is using change to morally justify violence, past or present, against “white people.” Ends justifying the means logic can be used to morally validate literally anything you want. That is a dangerous person. If you think he is only this way on his personal account and not in the classroom I think you are being naive.

Being a graduate of UGA, I doubt highly he was teaching these principles in the classroom, especially as a TA. If he was, you’re right, I am naive, and would be extremely disappointed in my school. I need further evidence to support that he was in fact teaching in classroom and I reserve my right to change my opinion as the facts change.

I agree it’s not part of curriculum or anything, but back in my day I had a biology professor who would spend the first 15 minutes of every lecture updating all 400 of us on the days current events and how **** George W Bush was. Personal opinion is injected everywhere, sometimes it’s just more forward than others.

Think about the demographic majority of UGA. How do you think expressing that opinion in a classroom would go over?

I get where you are coming from, but you are talking about young people who are yet to be grounded in any principles from their specific life experiences (by and large) and are in the middle of an environment where challenging the status quo and being progressive minded is not only encouraged its celebrated.

And to reinforce my point just look at the schools responses to these two situations: Sasser was bounced almost right away, this guy was immediately defended by the school sighting his first amendment rights. That sets the tone whether it’s right or not.

I agree. It’s not fair or right, but every reasonable mind knew Sasser was done at UGA immediately. Not much at UGA is more important than football, although you’ll never hear that mentioned by anyone of stature. Let’s see what happens to the TA in next few weeks before drawing conclusions. I’d imagine this is a hot topic right now.

Why should we have to wait weeks to draw conclusions? The Baseball player was gone within days. Sasser's thoughts are crystal clear and it's apparent this isn't his first episode of racially toxic rhetoric. There's absolutely no room for interpretation or a double standard.

Is it a double standard if theyre both dismissed?

EDIT: any delays likely have everything to do with legal recourse more than anything else. Lawyers will navigate every scenario before giving the green light. Being prudent is never a bad thing.

Looks like their learning allot at the UGA

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