Nah he won't be, but there's a chance he's in real trouble very quickly if Edwards doesn't come.
People don't realize that this is quite literally transitioning from the triple option of basketball to ANY other offense. Maybe I hate the triangle too freaking much, but it is so out of date that the transition literally is a triple option college football team going to a normal offense. Combine this with how the team did with Maten (mediocrely) and I'm not sure how people can't connect the dots.
Downvote me if you want, but this team is just a .500 team with Fox even if Hagans is on the team.
He really needs to get it to work with Edwards bad if/when he gets on campus. I won't watch the highlights until he commits, if he does, but from what I can take, he seems like a more athletic James Harden. Pairing that with hopefully a grad transfer PG that can do what Beverley did as a defensive player, and there'd be no excuses to not take a major step forward. If it does work with him, then he'll be in good shape going forward, but if not, he's likely gone after three seasons.
Without Edwards, it is a longer deal, but I don't know if he'd be given a chance to see it through.
The team is non competitive. They have lost every conference game by double digits. The guards are awful at best and Crean will be given more time due to the roster he was dealt. Watched the game today and they had 15 turnovers by haltime, that is all I could watch.
Our basketball team needs help and it's a shame with all the talent in Georgia but none of the kids want to stay home and play for the Dawgs . South Georgia and Middle Georgia have some true talents 😉
He went like 9-25 his first year at Indiana and then made the sweet 16. Give him some time. He's been successful everywhere else he's been and it's hard to imagine he won't do it with us
There is no way he is getting fired after one season (or two or three). UGA is not going to eat a contract of that size for a basketball coach, especially based upon a "Kinsley" gaffe. It isn't a good look coming from him but he was expressing at least in terms of level of play about this roster what a lot of people are thinking. It was a mediocre team with an All-SEC type player like Yante Maten...without him, they look and are playing awful...like they are confounded by the basic fundamentals of the game. The rise or fall of Crean's tenure will be determined by whether he can bring quality to elite talent to Athens, not by a comment after a throwaway game in a throwaway season.
You take talent and figure it out later. At the very minimum, the potential Edwards signing is very important to show that Crean can still do it with developing guards. At a mid point, it potentially can turn things around more than people are thinking, as this is not a football team.
If neither of the above happens, then well, he's in trouble. And it'll be faster trouble than anybody are thinking, because this is not the old guard anymore at UGA. While I don't know anything with basketball for sure, I'm sure they want competitiveness and if it's not back to at a minimum, 21-13 type seasons, Edwards or no Edwards, he's likely fired after 3 seasons.
Georgia's recruiting wasn't that bad, it needs to be just a TOUCH better and occasionally snag the elite guy like an Edwards.
One thing seems clear... our players have not bought in to what Crean is trying to teach. I think everything Crean said in his post game presser is candidly accurate. It's going to take at least 3 recruiting classes for Crean to get the type of players he needs to run his system.
I don't like Crean whining about being stuck with players from Fox's program. I don't believe for a minute having those players on roster has cost the team games.
Crean's offense is very simple, I think he's scapegoating.
I with you on that. Somewhat. You’ve got to recruit the best players. But UGA can’t fill a roster with McD All Americans like basketball schools. Mid majors seem to do it by a formula with guys that play 3 or 4 years and develop.
Crean isn't whining, he's merely pointing out the fact that this team isn't mentally tough and regrets not making cuts when he had the opportunity. Look we knew this guy was a talker when we hired him, so it should be no surprise when he says things that fall outside the boundary of typical coach speak.
I started following UGA basketball heavily when Mark Fox was hired and completely understood that Tom Cream was inheriting mess. Ashton Hagans was supposed to be the point guard this year, but when the coaching change took place, Hagans jumped ship to Kentucky. Now remind you that we also lost Yante Maten to graduation and he was 90% of our team in 2017-18. So Crean took over a team with no real point guard and a bunch of guys who Maten carried to a STILL bad season, which saw the coach get fired!! Claxton is the ONLY player on our team, who would even get off the bench at Kentucky. Crean will get this thing turned around with or without Anthony Edwards. The only thing that Edwards changes is the possible time table. Didn't Kirby lose at home to Vandy his first year with tons more talent? UGA basketball is 12th-14th in the SEC in current talent.
He’s spot on with his comments, which will hopefully motivate a few players to raise themselves up. I am sure he has asked himself more than once, “What have I gotten myself in to here?” I know Tennesse is currently ranked #1 in the country, but for goodness sake think about how hard it is to lose by 46 points when the game is only 40 minutes long. They could have kept it within 46 by running out the 30 second shot clock every possession and then just playing sound defense.
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Nah he won't be, but there's a chance he's in real trouble very quickly if Edwards doesn't come.
People don't realize that this is quite literally transitioning from the triple option of basketball to ANY other offense. Maybe I hate the triangle too freaking much, but it is so out of date that the transition literally is a triple option college football team going to a normal offense. Combine this with how the team did with Maten (mediocrely) and I'm not sure how people can't connect the dots.
Downvote me if you want, but this team is just a .500 team with Fox even if Hagans is on the team.
No he won’t.
He really needs to get it to work with Edwards bad if/when he gets on campus. I won't watch the highlights until he commits, if he does, but from what I can take, he seems like a more athletic James Harden. Pairing that with hopefully a grad transfer PG that can do what Beverley did as a defensive player, and there'd be no excuses to not take a major step forward. If it does work with him, then he'll be in good shape going forward, but if not, he's likely gone after three seasons.
Without Edwards, it is a longer deal, but I don't know if he'd be given a chance to see it through.
If he gets Anthony Edwards he will be given 3-4 years
I hope he gets 3-4 years either way. If he gets Ant Man he deserves 10.
The team is non competitive. They have lost every conference game by double digits. The guards are awful at best and Crean will be given more time due to the roster he was dealt. Watched the game today and they had 15 turnovers by haltime, that is all I could watch.
Our basketball team needs help and it's a shame with all the talent in Georgia but none of the kids want to stay home and play for the Dawgs . South Georgia and Middle Georgia have some true talents 😉
He went like 9-25 his first year at Indiana and then made the sweet 16. Give him some time. He's been successful everywhere else he's been and it's hard to imagine he won't do it with us
He will have 5 years atleast b4 any talk of hot seats. Btw the triangle offense works on any level.never will be outdated
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He will have 5 years atleast b4 any talk of hot seats. Btw the triangle offense works on any level.never will be outdated
It does work way better when you have Jordan, Pippen and Kobe type athletes. Of course, so would any other system.
this is idiotic
1st year. lol
There is no way he is getting fired after one season (or two or three). UGA is not going to eat a contract of that size for a basketball coach, especially based upon a "Kinsley" gaffe. It isn't a good look coming from him but he was expressing at least in terms of level of play about this roster what a lot of people are thinking. It was a mediocre team with an All-SEC type player like Yante Maten...without him, they look and are playing awful...like they are confounded by the basic fundamentals of the game. The rise or fall of Crean's tenure will be determined by whether he can bring quality to elite talent to Athens, not by a comment after a throwaway game in a throwaway season.
Honestly I think we'd be better off bringing in somebody closer to the bottom of the top 50 than Edwards.
A one and done would be wasted at this point in team development.
Hopefully the addition of Edwards might attract some other quality players preferably a few guards though it is late in the cycle so who knows.
Sorry, I still can't quote.
My thinking is regardless of who else we sign, we won't be ready to contend next season and Edwards will likely be in The NBA in 2020.
You take talent and figure it out later. At the very minimum, the potential Edwards signing is very important to show that Crean can still do it with developing guards. At a mid point, it potentially can turn things around more than people are thinking, as this is not a football team.
If neither of the above happens, then well, he's in trouble. And it'll be faster trouble than anybody are thinking, because this is not the old guard anymore at UGA. While I don't know anything with basketball for sure, I'm sure they want competitiveness and if it's not back to at a minimum, 21-13 type seasons, Edwards or no Edwards, he's likely fired after 3 seasons.
Georgia's recruiting wasn't that bad, it needs to be just a TOUCH better and occasionally snag the elite guy like an Edwards.
I think Crean has 3 years minimum, regardless of how his teams perform. There won't be a lot of stomach to start over any time soon.
One thing seems clear... our players have not bought in to what Crean is trying to teach. I think everything Crean said in his post game presser is candidly accurate. It's going to take at least 3 recruiting classes for Crean to get the type of players he needs to run his system.
I don't like Crean whining about being stuck with players from Fox's program. I don't believe for a minute having those players on roster has cost the team games.
Crean's offense is very simple, I think he's scapegoating.
SMH!
He is a REALLY good coach.
The team is full of a lot of supporting players, minus Claxton.
the team already looks better/more fluid than last year.
Probably the same people calling for Kirby’s job after year 1.
I with you on that. Somewhat. You’ve got to recruit the best players. But UGA can’t fill a roster with McD All Americans like basketball schools. Mid majors seem to do it by a formula with guys that play 3 or 4 years and develop.
Crean isn't whining, he's merely pointing out the fact that this team isn't mentally tough and regrets not making cuts when he had the opportunity. Look we knew this guy was a talker when we hired him, so it should be no surprise when he says things that fall outside the boundary of typical coach speak.
I like it. I’m glad these kids are getting a reality check... I listened to the groans every time our team turned it over yesterday.
Our fans were about to start booing... our team... and I don’t blame them.
We were up by 10 only to take horrible shots and turn the ball over 4-5 consecutive possessions.
Edwards
Crump/Hightower
Claxton
Hammonds
Ngumezi/2019 signee
#1 player in the country + experienced players + Slim Reaper/ShaunDon = top 15 team. Easily.
I started following UGA basketball heavily when Mark Fox was hired and completely understood that Tom Cream was inheriting mess. Ashton Hagans was supposed to be the point guard this year, but when the coaching change took place, Hagans jumped ship to Kentucky. Now remind you that we also lost Yante Maten to graduation and he was 90% of our team in 2017-18. So Crean took over a team with no real point guard and a bunch of guys who Maten carried to a STILL bad season, which saw the coach get fired!! Claxton is the ONLY player on our team, who would even get off the bench at Kentucky. Crean will get this thing turned around with or without Anthony Edwards. The only thing that Edwards changes is the possible time table. Didn't Kirby lose at home to Vandy his first year with tons more talent? UGA basketball is 12th-14th in the SEC in current talent.
If they could have cut their turnovers in half, there are quite a few games they could have won. There are stretches where they are just god awful.
He’s spot on with his comments, which will hopefully motivate a few players to raise themselves up. I am sure he has asked himself more than once, “What have I gotten myself in to here?” I know Tennesse is currently ranked #1 in the country, but for goodness sake think about how hard it is to lose by 46 points when the game is only 40 minutes long. They could have kept it within 46 by running out the 30 second shot clock every possession and then just playing sound defense.