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Wealthy parents bribe their kids in to elite colleges using athletic teams

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    pg. Frankly I think this is just another example of people feeling better about themselves by identifying with those financially and socially above them. You are kept under the thumb of those who pander to the interest of the very wealthy in a thousand different ways. Now, if this was about some low dollar scam perpetrated by poor minorities, you people would be all over it. That way you'd feel you both identify with the rich and separate yourselves from those less fortunate.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Bank I don't think we know half of this story yet. I doubt the chain of custody ends with coaches.

  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 18,770 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited March 2019

    I think that is only serious issue in this story. Cheating on SATs...been going on for generations. Not a criminal offense. Setting up fake charities to launder bribes. Yep, that's a crime, but not something that someone should go to prison over. I mean they weren't collecting money from other people. The school staff members who accepted the bribes probably didn't claim them on taxes, so that's a crime also.

    The big question is, who monitors all the minor sports and coaching staffs? How do you admit a kid into the school based on athletic abilities when the kid doesn't even play the sport? Doesn't someone outside of the coaching staff keep tabs on these specially qualified kids and at least verify? Kind of reminds me of the movie Major Payne when the guy is put in charge of the ROTC program but the school president doesn't give a crap and doesn't even know the school has an ROTC program.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    pg. you're parsing this like crazy. It's hard to know where to start, so I won't for now.

  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 18,770 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited March 2019

    No idea what you are talking about. This is a story about a handful of people who scammed their way into college. There are around 15,000,000 students enrolled in public colleges and about 5,000,000 in private colleges. You think every single one of them is there based on academic merits. I used to work at a University. People try to scam the system all the time. Even if the system is 99.99% accurate and efficient, that's 2,000 fraudulent students. But no system is that accurate. Lets say it's 95% accurate, that's 1,000,000 fraudulent students. That is probably closer to reality. Who cares if 50 rich kids got in to elite schools?

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/183995/us-college-enrollment-and-projections-in-public-and-private-institutions/

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    pg. of course you have no idea.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I've made my point, no need to beat it to death.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    This is also about the FBI wanting some positive publicity. Kind of like the police department in Florida publicizing a 77 year old widower billionaire visiting a Jackshack.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Bank, The FBI has had a public relations arm going back to Hoover's early days as Director. It's a real case though.

  • JimWallaceJimWallace Posts: 6,171 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Bribing a test monitor to allow a ringer to come in and take the ACT or SAT in your stead? An organized enterprise making that happen on behalf of its clients?

    That's the sort of stuff the news is reporting.

    I understand that if I donate $100 million to build a new library the admissions committee might give a tiny bit of affirmative action to my kid who is otherwise equally qualified to the other Stanford applicants. Everybody understands that these elite schools are flooded with elite applicants and can only accept a percentage of them. Daddy's new library buys a bonus point, but only if the kid is qualified.

    I understand if my son is a five star QB with at least minimal qualifications but qualifications nevertheless he gets bonus admission points at schools he might be just barely qualified to attend. He still has to have the minimum academic qualifications. In recent years several UGA football recruits had to go to junior colleges to prepare to meet UGA academic standards.

    The news is not about influence and athletes and such. The news is about straight out corruption, fraud, crime, and a criminal enterprise.

  • Acrum21Acrum21 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @greshamdisco so what are your thoughts on the Sphinx and the signs of apparent water erosion that point to the Nile River Valley area once being a tropical rain forest climate as little as 8k years ago?

  • RxDawgRxDawg Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Finally... someone is getting to the meat of the matter. @Acrum21

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