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Who should The Hawks take at #3 ?....

WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

Let's assume Ayton goes 1st, because he will.
Of the rest either PG Luka Doncic, PF Marvin Bagley or PF/C Jaren Jackson will in all likelihood go 2nd.

My question is out of this group..

Luka Doncic
Marvin Bagley
Jaren Jackson.

Which should The Hawks take, and which would you take ?

It's a tough choice, Doncic has rare skills for a very big PG, Bagley will be among the most athletic and active bigs in the league and Jackson has superb defensive potential to go along with the ability to shoot from outside and finish with either hand.

Of course only 2 of those 3 will be available when The Hawks pick at 3, but we don't know which 2, so we'll include them all.

My pick as of now is Jackson. We know the new HC covets defense and JJ has All NBA 1st team defense like potential. Today's game also needs bigs who can shoot from outside and score with either hand, both of which Jackson shows ability at.

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    CZCashvilleDawgCZCashvilleDawg Posts: 9,360 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
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    SoFL_DawgSoFL_Dawg Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited June 2018

    Bagley will be best player from this draft. He won’t be there at 3 though. So it’ll be Jackson.

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    KaseyKasey Posts: 28,879 mod

    Don’t rule out some trades here. Boston has some draft capital and extra guards they could trade to shake this up

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    WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited June 2018

    @SoFL_Dawg said:
    Bagley will be best player from this draft. He won’t be there at 3 though.

    Many mocks have Doncic going #2, which of course would leave Bagley on the board.
    I think any of the 3 players I listed could end up going at 2.

    If not for the back injury Michael Porter might have gone 2nd, he might make people regret not taking him, but the risks are too high to pass on other potentially great players.

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    KaseyKasey Posts: 28,879 mod

    Doncic is already floating out there he might stay. If Sacramento takes him you can be sure he’s gonna stay

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    SoFL_DawgSoFL_Dawg Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I saw something that Donic was beginning to slide somewhat, ESPN talking head.

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    WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @SoFL_Dawg said:
    I saw something that Donic was beginning to slide somewhat, ESPN talking head.

    For some reason group think seemed to set in immediately after the lottery drawing, Doncic went from being anywhere from 2nd to 6th on most boards to 2nd and most boards literally overnight. We seem to be getting back to where wee were prior to the drawing where opinions vary.

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    WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Kasey said:
    Don’t rule out some trades here. Boston has some draft capital and extra guards they could trade to shake this up

    It won't matter unless The Hawks are involved in a trade.
    Ayton is going to be the first player taken regardless of who has the pick.
    Personally I'm not 100% convinced he has the most value because The NBA is not the league it was when traditional centers dominated. He is SO RARE though, he will go #1.

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    KaseyKasey Posts: 28,879 mod

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:
    Don’t rule out some trades here. Boston has some draft capital and extra guards they could trade to shake this up

    It won't matter unless The Hawks are involved in a trade.
    Ayton is going to be the first player taken regardless of who has the pick.
    Personally I'm not 100% convinced he has the most value because The NBA is not the league it was when traditional centers dominated. He is SO RARE though, he will go #1.

    Probably will matter. Because if Boston comes in ahead of them it will affect who the hawks take

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    SoFL_DawgSoFL_Dawg Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @SoFL_Dawg said:
    I saw something that Donic was beginning to slide somewhat, ESPN talking head.

    For some reason group think seemed to set in immediately after the lottery drawing, Doncic went from being anywhere from 2nd to 6th on most boards to 2nd and most boards literally overnight. We seem to be getting back to where wee were prior to the drawing where opinions vary.

    So you DV something you’re essentially agreeing with, OK...

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    WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:
    Don’t rule out some trades here. Boston has some draft capital and extra guards they could trade to shake this up

    It won't matter unless The Hawks are involved in a trade.
    Ayton is going to be the first player taken regardless of who has the pick.
    Personally I'm not 100% convinced he has the most value because The NBA is not the league it was when traditional centers dominated. He is SO RARE though, he will go #1.

    Probably will matter. Because if Boston comes in ahead of them it will affect who the hawks take

    Maybe, maybe not.
    Would Boston be more likely to pick a particular player than The Kings ?
    To me it's still basically the same draft as long as The Hawks stay at 3.

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    WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @SoFL_Dawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @SoFL_Dawg said:
    I saw something that Donic was beginning to slide somewhat, ESPN talking head.

    For some reason group think seemed to set in immediately after the lottery drawing, Doncic went from being anywhere from 2nd to 6th on most boards to 2nd and most boards literally overnight. We seem to be getting back to where wee were prior to the drawing where opinions vary.

    So you DV something you’re essentially agreeing with, OK...

    I have no idea what your point is. what does DV stand for ?

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    KaseyKasey Posts: 28,879 mod

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:
    Don’t rule out some trades here. Boston has some draft capital and extra guards they could trade to shake this up

    It won't matter unless The Hawks are involved in a trade.
    Ayton is going to be the first player taken regardless of who has the pick.
    Personally I'm not 100% convinced he has the most value because The NBA is not the league it was when traditional centers dominated. He is SO RARE though, he will go #1.

    Probably will matter. Because if Boston comes in ahead of them it will affect who the hawks take

    Maybe, maybe not.
    Would Boston be more likely to pick a particular player than The Kings ?
    To me it's still basically the same draft as long as The Hawks stay at 3.

    Maybe, maybe so. I think if Boston came up to that 2 spot they could take any of the names on your list. They could take Doncic. They could take Bagley.

    But I forgot...no one is allowed to offer a dissenting opinion without retribution

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    WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:
    Don’t rule out some trades here. Boston has some draft capital and extra guards they could trade to shake this up

    It won't matter unless The Hawks are involved in a trade.
    Ayton is going to be the first player taken regardless of who has the pick.
    Personally I'm not 100% convinced he has the most value because The NBA is not the league it was when traditional centers dominated. He is SO RARE though, he will go #1.

    Probably will matter. Because if Boston comes in ahead of them it will affect who the hawks take

    Maybe, maybe not.
    Would Boston be more likely to pick a particular player th> @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:
    Don’t rule out some trades here. Boston has some draft capital and extra guards they could trade to shake this up

    It won't matter unless The Hawks are involved in a trade.
    Ayton is going to be the first player taken regardless of who has the pick.
    Personally I'm not 100% convinced he has the most value because The NBA is not the league it was when traditional centers dominated. He is SO RARE though, he will go #1.

    Probably will matter. Because if Boston comes in ahead of them it will affect who the hawks take

    Maybe, maybe not.
    Would Boston be more likely to pick a particular player than The Kings ?
    To me it's still basically the same draft as long as The Hawks stay at 3.

    Maybe, maybe so. I think if Boston came up to that 2 spot they could take any of the names on your list. They could take Doncic. They could take Bagley.

    But I forgot...no one is allowed to offer a dissenting opinion without retribution

    Stop with the pouting please.
    I just don't see your point.
    We would still have the same questions as we have now, unless we knew who Boston was trading up to take.
    Of course we could find out The Kings are targeting a particular player as well.

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    bmauldinbmauldin Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    If performed well, this draft has potential to change the trajectory of the organization.

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    WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @bmauldin said:
    If performed well, this draft has potential to change the trajectory of the organization.

    I agree.
    If they make the best choice at #3, then maybe trade Schroder and move up from 19th to take Trae Young, we could have the nucleus of a contender down the road.

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    KaseyKasey Posts: 28,879 mod

    Or if they make the type of blunder like Marvin Williams over chris Paul and deron Williams it will set them back another five years

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    TeddyTeddy Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Hawks need to keep tanking to get 3 first picks in the draft, so they can rebuild like the 76ers. The top 2 spending teams are in the finals, surprise surprise. I don’t see the Hawks ever being a top spending team until they get new ownership. NBA is pointless to watch as most could've guessed the final 4 teams and finals participants.

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    bmauldinbmauldin Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Kasey said:
    Or if they make the type of blunder like Marvin Williams over chris Paul and deron Williams it will set them back another five years

    Luckily Billy Knight isn’t in charge anymore...
    Would have loved to see what Danny Ferry could have done with this... of course he wouldn’t have let Milsap and Horford walk with nothing in return....

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    bmauldinbmauldin Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Teddy said:
    Hawks need to keep tanking to get 3 first picks in the draft, so they can rebuild like the 76ers. The top 2 spending teams are in the finals, surprise surprise. I don’t see the Hawks ever being a top spending team until they get new ownership. NBA is pointless to watch as most could've guessed the final 4 teams and finals participants.

    Hawks have an owner now that has deep pockets... I just don’t think he has the sports iq or surrounding himself with people that know how to operate an organization.

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