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I keep trying to tell people, we've been in the Trump era from Fall 2015 to present. Trump was already creating division around the country and revealing people's true colors even before he was elected in the primaries. Trump may have entered office in 2017, but he was already stirring stuff up around this country well before then. When Kaepernick first protested during the 2016 NFL preseason in August, Trump had long already been well known and very popular by everyone and the political media despite Obama still being at the tail end of his presidency, and Obama had absolutely nothing to do with the issues Kaepernick was protesting on. Kaepernick even stated that we should be ashamed that both Trump and Hillary were chosen as our candidates when there were so many better leaders out there around the Republican and Democratic parties who could have been chosen. Politics aside, Trump does not act presidential at all compared to all previous presidents in modern history who had heart & class regardless of what party they were in.
A Tillman ad would be extremely conservative image wise for Nike, but Tillman was anything but a safe comfortable person for conservatives.
He was a radically outspoken, libertarian atheist who had no use for people who waved flags while letting others do their fighting.
Ok, I agree with your first sentence! Yes, the false narrative is—if you don’t think kneeling at National Anthem events is a good idea you are a racist. Oh, and also because you are from Georgia and root for the Dawgs! Haha!! Interestingly, I happen to agree that the police need to work and train to enforce the law fairly and safely—for everybody. I fully understand why many black Americans believe it isn’t enforced equally and fairly by some officers. And, I support working to eliminate racial profiling and mistreatment by the police. I’m for the stated goals of the protest! I am also very much in favor of supporting good police to enforce our laws. I suspect >95% of us would agree with those statements. All I am saying is that disrespecting our flag, anthem, and all they stand for is one of the worst possible ways to try to fix that problem. I believe it is a horrible mistake that will come back to bite us all. Professional athletes have a big influence on children. What are you teaching the next generation? If you see a problem, reach for the biggest shock you can to make a statement, or are you teaching them that our country, anthem and flag aren’t worth much? I like the former less than the latter, and I don’t like the latter at all. Burning the house down to let your parents know that you think they are unfair is always a bad idea imho. It leads to anarchy because the attitude will spread. I’m not a fan of these political boycotts, but I think the Nike boycott is in order.
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I'm not for censoring this kind of conversation, but this is not the place to have this discussion and its divisive amongst the members of this forum, our fanbase, and I'd imagine many of our players as well.
If you want to have this discussion somewhere find a politics forum. If you want to complain about the ad, go to the r/theDonald where there will be many like-minded individuals. No one is changing anyone's mind on this forum, and this will do nothing but drive people away.
I already bumped this thread way down last night only for it to come back to the top this morning. . .
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umooner, maybe they believe in free speech?
Free speech doesn't apply to a forum dude. I'm not asking for people to be arrested or otherwise censored by the government here. I'm talking about a forum dedicated to Georgia football being kept in its place.
This is relevant to football, just as concussions and the economics of the sport are a part of the landscape.
Umooner, I really, really wish this discussion was irrelevant. Unfortunately, it isn’t.
I take your comment and the only thing I will say is Kaepernick has said each time he isn't disrespecting the country or flag but he wants things to change. He apologized for sitting down and switched to kneeling because a kneel shows respect and prayer. As for the children learning theres a half truth... Some children will watch and question but what aboit children watching their parents get mad or curse him. It comes down to what you teach them and explain his methods. I told my daughter I dont agree with his tactics but I respect the risk he's taking to at least push the agenda.
I also disagree with the Nike boycott. They opted to go with the side of potential history. No one could've predicted during his prison sentence the things Muhammad Ali had in coming the future. Now he's considered an American hero.
Nike"s new logo?
From USA Today Online, August 27, 2016:
Not showing pride doesn't automatically equate disrespect
Same here. I think this issue might have been better addressed off the field, but I try to keep by personal opinions separate from my core beliefs in fairness and freedom of expression.
I would have preferred athletes form an organization in their own time to address social issues, but we are where we are and I don't believe in letting my own discomfort taint my values.
Agree with the off the field part, and it still could be done with the NFL’s billions at stake. They could contribute a lot to educate and train police officers and to do community outreach via a joint effort by players and police organizations. It could be very positive and effective.
Army veteran, here. If any one has served in the Armed Forces, you know why we did it. We 1%ers did it because we fight for our country's freedom. Freedom for what? Freedom of speech, religion, etc. To protect our country's freedom-seeking ideals. Kap kneeling had nothing to do with protesting against our nation's military. It never was. It was about protesting against the police and what was going on at that time.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/heres-how-nate-boyer-got-colin-kaepernick-to-go-from-sitting-to-kneeling/
I have no care whatsoever about protesting this or protesting that. Protesting comes with freedom of speech and that's what I signed up for when I joined.