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Wealthy parents bribe their kids in to elite colleges using athletic teams

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Orlando. I'm thinking if it's gone that far, it's probably gone further. For the scheme to be successful they'd need to secure passing grades for their not so bright off spring. That would take layers of accomplices from professors to record keepers.

  • orlandoorlando Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
  • greshamdiscogreshamdisco Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I have a confession to make. My law degree from Yale is fake. I got it by pretending to be on their women’s fencing team. I’m neither a woman or fencer, but we wore masks, so no one ever knew. (I am married to a woman and have a fence around my house though, but I can no longer justify my lies.) My other doctorates from Stanford, Oxford, Harvard, and Princeton are legit though. So, hit me up if you need spinal surgery, have questions about Egyptian archeology, need a bridge built, or need a financial portfolio manager.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited March 2019

    @Bankwalker you can't keep anything straight. You say parents are bribing the school with donations. I correct you and say it had nothing to do with the school outside of a few coaches and was mostly faking test scores. You then say I'm wrong and repeat what I told you. It also wasn't a charity. It was a business that operated a fake charity as a vehicle for some of the bribes.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited March 2019

    pg. I think you're missing the point. There are limited spaces at elite schools. When they bribe a spot away, they are stealing it from more deserving candidates.

    A free market is dependent on a system of meritocracy to flourish.

  • ugaforeverugaforever Posts: 802 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    It's been going on since the beginning of time. Money talks. It only offends you if you don't have it. Grow up and realize life isn't fair. Want the privilege having money affords you, figure out away to make more. So tired of people thinking they deserve something from those of us that have figured it out.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited March 2019

    uga, you might be the one who needs to grow up and get your nose out of the asses of those who cheat everybody.

    It amuses me when people are eager to judge somebody who takes the bare minimum to survive but loves the biggest thieves among us.

  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 18,964 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited March 2019

    Meh...still not enough to get me concerned. My kids go to regular public college. My wife and I went to public colleges. No kid is getting screwed out of college because some rich parents cheated the system. It really is a victimless crime. This story is getting way too much attention.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited March 2019

    @YaleDawg I have reread this thread and it is YOU who cannot keep the issues straight. Sometimes having a conversation with you is like trying to talk to the Sicilian from The Princess Bride. You acknowledged once that you read things improperly. Now it is time for you to do so a 2nd time. Please point to me where I said the parents were paying the schools, and where you corrected me. I'm the one who has corrected you. Sham charity or not - the guy set up a charity to make it look like donations were being made. The FBI is the source for calling the money a "charitable donation." Read the articles. The FBI was pretty clear. You should also check out the "Key Worldwide Foundation" - They filed 990 forms claiming "Grants" were made directly to the schools, so - yeah, you're dead wrong...again

  • FirePlugDawgFirePlugDawg Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I literally picked the first pic I found. It was dated July 2018 (whatever -recently).

    If Loughlin floats your boat, then sail on, friend.

  • FirePlugDawgFirePlugDawg Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    "Dewey" wrote in a comment on insidehighered. com

    "Visit Foundation Center to view three separate 990s (2014-2016) for The Key Worldwide Foundation which is the fraudulent foundation Singer used to launder money and make “grants”. There are many more schools listed as receiving “grants” than those previously cited by the FBI, including: $150k & $175k to Chapman U, three $50k grants to DePaul Religious Studies (no joke), $83k, $51k & $203k to NYU Althletics, $60k & $40k to Universtity of Miami, $50k to Barouche College, $252k & $294k to University of Texas athletics and many separate $50k-ish gifts to USC for waterpolo, baseball, soccer, volleyball and USC’s women athletics board."

    I suspect the IRS is salivating over this. Many targets. Hope the IRS is funded.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Bankwalker "Federal prosecutors say many of those listed charity grants were cover for bribes paid to athletic officials, coaches and others at those schools." What are you not understanding?

  • RxDawgRxDawg Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I was kind of dismissive of this story at first too. I guess it's because I'm not surprised by it. I just assume the Rich cut corners to get ahead, because they can. I imagine we all do it on much smaller scales in some way. Besides it's not the bribery that got the FBI's attention, it's the fraud. Mainly the charity frauds, and I guess the test scores? Meh... If they think it's worth their time who am I to say otherwise?

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited March 2019

    @YaleDawg You do understand what the word “many” means, correct? Now go read my ORIGINAL POST and tell me what I was thinking when I specifically mentioned the coaches as the ones receiving the bribes, Mr Ivy League. Where exactly did I say what you claim? I never did, only now there is proof that what you say didn’t happen is actually what did happen in some circumstances. That’s just not what I ever said, even though you want to say I did.

    A charity set up by Singer filed IRS forms claiming they gave money directly to the schools That wasnt what I was ever saying, but since you want to call me out for making this “false statement” then I would be remiss not to point out that I would have been correct - had I actually said that.

    What don’t you understand? I don’t know where all of the money went but I was very clear in my OP that the arhletics coaches at Yale and Stanford were the ones at the schools who took bribes. I don’t think I was very cryptic with my words, either.

    As Yoda would say, “Easily confused, you are.”

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