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  • CaliforniaDawgCaliforniaDawg Posts: 674 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Did you say Darwin? This might go against the seriousness of my last post, but can't resist.



  • pocoyopocoyo Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    So the odds of me buying that Jeep for a few rolls of toilet paper just went down?

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited April 2020

    Facts. I only posted facts. To lecture me about how my post is skewed while overlooking the ones skewed the other way simply because one fits your belief system and one doesn’t is not unexpected.

    I apologize for commenting on your response because I may have missed your intent or some other point you were teying to make. I quit reading a paragraph and half in to your tongue lashing. If you are making a list about what’s not needed then you can add your own.

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited April 2020

    If you look at my other posts I differentiate between "Cases" and infections and use the NY study to compile my numbers. I used 1 "Case" = 10 infections so to achieve 200,000,000 infections for herd immunity there will be 20,000,000 "cases" which at 10% = 2 million deaths.

    BTW the true number of deaths is much higher than reported but I didn't factor that in!

  • orlandoorlando Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I have some ultra soft charmin I’ll trade for the Jeep, it’s worth more than that John Wayne stuff

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @deutcshland_dawg It won't let me quote.

    The total deaths will be 2 million if we rely on herd immunity and 50-60,000 a month until a vaccine is developed. If the vaccine is developed and used within a year we are looking at 6-700,00 deaths. If it takes 2.5-3 years to develop a vaccine or cure then the toll will be 2 million also unless it miraculously disappears beforehand. Going back to prior normal would (SWAG) mean the 2 million would die within 12 months. There would be many indirect deaths on top of that as medical assistance would not be available.

    Personal note, I had stage 3 colon cancer in 2018 and my colonoscopy has been delayed due to the virus. Who knows what if any impact delaying that for another 12-18 months would be. Potential indirect death?

  • pocoyopocoyo Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
  • RxDawgRxDawg Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited April 2020

    I saw more of a natural selection stance. Not the endorsing of eugenics, which would be forced to yield a specific result. That's a dishonest take and assigning the worst intent in someone that doesn't agree with you.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    It's quite honest since from its inception the eugenics movement took major issue with public health advancement. Its proponents believed it allowed the weak to live unnaturally longer lives making society weaker as a whole. In fact "let natural selection run its course" was the entire point of eugenics. The word literally means good origins or good birth in Greek.

  • RxDawgRxDawg Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Eugenics is assigned reproduction in order to produce a desired result. It's the interference of man to load the deck of the game. And it's most commonly associated with Nazi Germany and their genocides in order to perpetuate their own race. But making wild accusations seems to be a common trend in our society these days...

    A quick google:

    Eugenics: the study of how to arrange reproduction within a human population to increase the occurrence of heritable characteristics regarded as desirable. Developed largely by Francis Galton as a method of improving the human race, it fell into disfavor only after the perversion of its doctrines by the Nazis.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    "Supporters of eugenics, the powerful early 20th-century movement for improving human heredity, often attacked that era's dramatic improvements in public health and medicine for preserving the lives of people they considered hereditarily unfit. Eugenics and public health also battled over whether heredity played a significant role in infectious diseases."

    In their view eugenicists believed letting those susceptible to disease die would increase the occurrence of heritable characteristics they deemed desirable. The characteristic being not dying from infectious disease.

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