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@Denmen185 @Denmen185 im the above post, when you stated, “There has been some improvement in treating such as less ventilator use early in treatment cycle, better drugs such as Remdesivir and steroids.”
You forgot to mention hydroxychloriquine.
In an earlier post, you broke down the case rate for CFR 20 and CFR 30 based on the time period before the current increase in Florida. I believe the breakdown is something close to 179k new cases since June 12? Do you happen to have the breakdown on cases by age group in Florida for the last 30 days?
I read studies. When used to clear mucus it has to be inhaled. Taken orally it increases glutathione levels which can have an effect on inflammation.
Ok.
I sure do enjoy the placebo effect.
@PerroGrande I think this is the point most people gloss over without giving a second thought. We won't know specifics until this is in our past and we can give definitive answers to serious questions. This is also why i think taking precautions is warranted. No one I know, you know, and anyone they know, has never lived through anything like this. Our understanding is limited to a few months time. People want to believe this is politically motivated, and i get it, it's an election year. But i fail to see how taking basic precautions to ensure your own safety, and the safety of others, is some political grandstanding. But I digress.
I encourage everyone to take time to understand perspectives that are not your own. The divide in this country is being driven by people who don't live in our neighborhoods, so they don't feel our struggle. Community is a mask we can all wear without taking a political stance. Care about those around you and their well being, just for a little while, so we can have a college football season, so we can save our nation.
We march forward into uncertainty, but we march together, with our united purpose as our compass.
I never said it wasn't helpful. It's action changes depending on how it's administered.
I live out here in Southern California. I am however PROUDLY from the great state of Georgia. There are however, many decisions that I made after my military service to the Marines ended in my first taking a really good job here at The Salk Institute for Biological Studies, then after sometime time on later marrying just THE SWEETEST woman that I have ever known. All of this has now anchored me in San Diego. The day to day struggle just to survive in this place is very real for such a large segment of the folks that live out here. The economic scene is (IMHO) more dire here as the shutdowns have a vast ripple effect throughout most all of the population. I do not have the answers folks. I know that Covid-19 is very real, and it's is devastating to so many. My wife and our kids are (so far) safe, and we are hanging in there. I always, always, always look for the bright side, or what is positive to keep my own head up. Covid-19 and the economic shutdowns that continue to happen make it a very scary thing into an indefinite amount of time going forward. I wish I could just wake up and find that this was all just a terrible nightmare. My prayers are being prayed upon daily for each and everyone of all of y'all. I do that with all of my heart. My prayers are happening all day, everyday.
Only tracked from 6/19.
As you can see the % over 55 is lower than during the period but the 43,327 is still above the 250 per day (24 days = 6,000) it was running at the end of May.
@YaleDawg and @Denmen185
Looking back to what you thought in Feb/March
To what you think now......
Is covid 19 worse than you thought it would be, better than you thought.... or is this about what you thought this disease would do?
@dirtypants I don’t think anyone here is saying we shouldn’t take basic precautions.
To the point being made earlier by @PerroGrande, below you can see that the deaths per million are much higher in Europe than in the United States. I read an article about Sweden’s death toll and a study has found that they basically death paneled the older folks and refused them ICU treatment in favor of younger people. I’ll link that article, too. Socialized medicine?
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It is dangerous to compare areas/countries that are close to the bottom of the down slope to one that is still rising.
NY is in a similar position to Europe and are at 1,666 per million. NJ 1,740; Mass 1,193;
Florida is only at 205 at the moment but set a record today ( 132 - Tuesday catch-up)
Thank you. What are the respective CFR’s for each of those 55+ age groups?
I’m home guys. Resting up and taking meds. The worst sick/flu whatever you want to call it feeling I’ve ever had. Never seen a disease that causes SO MANY other things to be affected in your body all at once from one diagnosis.
Some Info from my Dr and nurses.
1)They kept telling me to keep fighting mentally. Try not to let it take over your mind. Hope that makes sense.
2) They ALL told me that it is SUPER bad as far as number of infections and hospitalizations (in Bay Area)
3) Deaths are not high USA wide but the number of pre existing conditions Covid is now giving people is astonishing.(which has not been reported well) Basically saying ok actual Covid didn’t kill you but here are weakened lungs , blood clots, pneumonia, organ transplants etc. basically they said it’s not about the death total people should be worried about. It should be about what damage has been done to your body that could possibly kill you later on that you would have not had ANY worry if you didn’t get covid.
4) with things shutting back down don’t get fooled into thinking the home gatherings are ok. Via tracing that’s where most people are getting Covid. From the backyard gatherings, dinners, celebrations, etc. social distance with even your family if you can. Meaning no big dinner parties etc. They are specifically worried about Labor Day and Thanksgiving. So many stories of July fourth gatherings and half of families getting Covid
5) none of them could tell me if you could get covid again. All said “more research needed”
6) Everone should get a thermometer and pulse oximeter. Check your temp and 02 sat. Anything less that 90% seek medical attention.
7) said to stay away from a lot of news. The news will be the last place to report how bad things really are. They said talk to your friends that are Drs and nurses. Hopefully they will shoot it to you straight.
Wow. Why so high in NY, NJ, and Mass? They’ve certainly held restrictions in place.
Hope you heal and recover well. Glad you are back home! Still lifting you up.
Some anecdotal info from some friends in the medical field...
Some docs starting to use nebulizers to administer meds with good results - most notably quicker recoveries, and less escalation of symptoms.
Found that interesting.
@Bankwalker I wasn't necessarily referring to this page, but I see it more and more on social media and people at the grocery store and it's just frustrating. I get that no one wants to be told what to do, and a lot of talking heads are feeding into the dividing narrative in our country. Just wish people would look out for those in their community, as it is focus on community and banding together that will inevitably get us through this.
Thank you 🙏🏽
Honest question: and I'll preface by saying that I know this is a highly contagious virus......not particularly deadly to most but certainly deadly to some and as @BayAreaDawg has shared.....some health complications even after recovery.
With that said: my question is......what can realistically be gained by shutting down? What will California gain by shutting down?
I realize California should eventually see some reduction in cases......hopefully significantly.....but a significant part of the population will still have to work: grocery stores, fastfood, hospital workers, agriculture, garbage collectors and many more.....not to mention the homeless and the border..... all of which will keep the virus going......and as soon as things open up again........BOOM.....virus explodes again.
One reason given is to keep from overwhelming hospitals. Does this country not have the resources available to open more than enough temporary hospitals that are capable of caring for the sick? I mean.....in New York's peak they were provided a huge Hospital ship. Supposedly the hospitals had no more room.....but the ship was really never used.
And how long can California realistically be shutdown before municipalities run out of money, people run out of money? Or.... how long will the citizens of California stay shut down before they start fighting back (realistic question)....4 weeks, 6, 8?
All with the reality of knowing.... as soon as it's opened back up......the cases will sky rocket again.
I think many ......if not most people agree that this virus isn't going away until there is a vaccine. And most would agree a vaccine is still months away.......and how effective will it be?
Can we all agree:
1. This is a highly contagious virus
2. Although many don't have symptoms....or mild symptoms.....it does kick some people in the ass.
3. And it will kill a certain % of the population.
4. It's not going away until there is a vaccine.
5. Face masks, washing hands and social distancing do help limit the spread.
Can most all conservatives and liberals agree to those statements?
It seems to me..... granted......I'm not as smart as most of you.....that closing down is worthless. It only postpones the inevitable.
That the best approach would be.....
1. Masks, wash, distance
2. Add as many temporary hospitals as possible
3. Continue to find more current meds that help with recovery
4. Keep the vulnerable population as safe as possible
5. Manage this thing as best as possible.
6. Stop with the double wammy of destroying the lives of people that don't get sick and killing the dreams of so many young people by shutting everything down.
Where am I wrong......?
I'm not arguing if this thing is real......I'm not arguing if this thing will kill some people.....I know it sucks.
But is what we are doing really working?