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COVID-19 Check-in 2.0
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Hope you heal and recover well. Glad you are back home! Still lifting you up.
Some anecdotal info from some friends in the medical field...
Some docs starting to use nebulizers to administer meds with good results - most notably quicker recoveries, and less escalation of symptoms.
Found that interesting.
@Bankwalker I wasn't necessarily referring to this page, but I see it more and more on social media and people at the grocery store and it's just frustrating. I get that no one wants to be told what to do, and a lot of talking heads are feeding into the dividing narrative in our country. Just wish people would look out for those in their community, as it is focus on community and banding together that will inevitably get us through this.
Thank you 🙏🏽
Honest question: and I'll preface by saying that I know this is a highly contagious virus......not particularly deadly to most but certainly deadly to some and as @BayAreaDawg has shared.....some health complications even after recovery.
With that said: my question is......what can realistically be gained by shutting down? What will California gain by shutting down?
I realize California should eventually see some reduction in cases......hopefully significantly.....but a significant part of the population will still have to work: grocery stores, fastfood, hospital workers, agriculture, garbage collectors and many more.....not to mention the homeless and the border..... all of which will keep the virus going......and as soon as things open up again........BOOM.....virus explodes again.
One reason given is to keep from overwhelming hospitals. Does this country not have the resources available to open more than enough temporary hospitals that are capable of caring for the sick? I mean.....in New York's peak they were provided a huge Hospital ship. Supposedly the hospitals had no more room.....but the ship was really never used.
And how long can California realistically be shutdown before municipalities run out of money, people run out of money? Or.... how long will the citizens of California stay shut down before they start fighting back (realistic question)....4 weeks, 6, 8?
All with the reality of knowing.... as soon as it's opened back up......the cases will sky rocket again.
I think many ......if not most people agree that this virus isn't going away until there is a vaccine. And most would agree a vaccine is still months away.......and how effective will it be?
Can we all agree:
1. This is a highly contagious virus
2. Although many don't have symptoms....or mild symptoms.....it does kick some people in the ass.
3. And it will kill a certain % of the population.
4. It's not going away until there is a vaccine.
5. Face masks, washing hands and social distancing do help limit the spread.
Can most all conservatives and liberals agree to those statements?
It seems to me..... granted......I'm not as smart as most of you.....that closing down is worthless. It only postpones the inevitable.
That the best approach would be.....
1. Masks, wash, distance
2. Add as many temporary hospitals as possible
3. Continue to find more current meds that help with recovery
4. Keep the vulnerable population as safe as possible
5. Manage this thing as best as possible.
6. Stop with the double wammy of destroying the lives of people that don't get sick and killing the dreams of so many young people by shutting everything down.
Where am I wrong......?
I'm not arguing if this thing is real......I'm not arguing if this thing will kill some people.....I know it sucks.
But is what we are doing really working?
Worse
Whomever DVd me....no problem....but could you also answer my question? Or at least tell me what was offensive about what I asked?
Dawg gone it, a freaking DV is not a discussion y'all!!! @texdawg has a really well thought out, insightful, and most sincere post IMO, and someone here DV'ed it???? WHY?????? Come on, and let's all try to talk to each other please.
My guess if it's not the serial downvoter is it's still considering how Euro countries fully shut down for months outside of basic needs (going even farther than the US did) and at least for now have eradicated the virus to almost nothing, so why can't the US be selfless and do a full on shut down until the curve is crushed.
I'd hold on on taking my victory lap here though. Areas that have been praised for their speed and strictness in making moves have begun to get hit (hasn't just been California, it's also apparently been Israel).
The cat has long left the bag, but your real answer for a country as big as ours might have just been 3 things, building more infrastructure during the spring while you stay in what was a soft lockdown until it's completed, washing your hands and wearing a mask where it's needed, and protecting the weaker.
It could go away without a vaccine. We don’t see Sars. H1N1 is still around but not very prevalent.
If 10% have already been infected, and 34% have helper t cell response, and 25% (<17) aren’t affected then in theory....this could go the way of previous coronaviruses.
To clarify, you believe the virus (severity/spread) is worse than you expected, the results are worse than you expected because of our poor response, or both?
All good points.... but the US isn't Europe. Italy can shut down and self contain it's tiny little country......the US is massive.
And what makes this country so great is what makes it vulnerable to a virus like this.
Like it or not ......a certain portion of our citizens won't quarantine.
How does anyone realistically believe that this country can be shut down?
OK ya all one last time this thread is not about down votes or whom or who gives them or gets them. Just move on and stick to the discussion, if not then I will give you 3 guesses as to what is going to happen next and the first 2 don't count.
This is the last warning...……...
What % of the population is most likely to never catch Covid......regardless of exposure?
I'm not suggesting I could never catch it.
I'm not suggesting I could never catch the flu.
Certainly not suggesting that.
But I have never in my entire life had the flu.
Hard to believe but my wife has never had the flu.
And my kids have never had the flu. Ever.
My son is now a sophomore and he has never missed school due to illness.
(Of course we'll all get the flu this year)
My family does get the flu shot.....I never have.