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Whomever DVd me....no problem....but could you also answer my question? Or at least tell me what was offensive about what I asked?
Dawg gone it, a freaking DV is not a discussion y'all!!! @texdawg has a really well thought out, insightful, and most sincere post IMO, and someone here DV'ed it???? WHY?????? Come on, and let's all try to talk to each other please.
My guess if it's not the serial downvoter is it's still considering how Euro countries fully shut down for months outside of basic needs (going even farther than the US did) and at least for now have eradicated the virus to almost nothing, so why can't the US be selfless and do a full on shut down until the curve is crushed.
I'd hold on on taking my victory lap here though. Areas that have been praised for their speed and strictness in making moves have begun to get hit (hasn't just been California, it's also apparently been Israel).
The cat has long left the bag, but your real answer for a country as big as ours might have just been 3 things, building more infrastructure during the spring while you stay in what was a soft lockdown until it's completed, washing your hands and wearing a mask where it's needed, and protecting the weaker.
It could go away without a vaccine. We don’t see Sars. H1N1 is still around but not very prevalent.
If 10% have already been infected, and 34% have helper t cell response, and 25% (<17) aren’t affected then in theory....this could go the way of previous coronaviruses.
To clarify, you believe the virus (severity/spread) is worse than you expected, the results are worse than you expected because of our poor response, or both?
All good points.... but the US isn't Europe. Italy can shut down and self contain it's tiny little country......the US is massive.
And what makes this country so great is what makes it vulnerable to a virus like this.
Like it or not ......a certain portion of our citizens won't quarantine.
How does anyone realistically believe that this country can be shut down?
OK ya all one last time this thread is not about down votes or whom or who gives them or gets them. Just move on and stick to the discussion, if not then I will give you 3 guesses as to what is going to happen next and the first 2 don't count.
This is the last warning...……...
What % of the population is most likely to never catch Covid......regardless of exposure?
I'm not suggesting I could never catch it.
I'm not suggesting I could never catch the flu.
Certainly not suggesting that.
But I have never in my entire life had the flu.
Hard to believe but my wife has never had the flu.
And my kids have never had the flu. Ever.
My son is now a sophomore and he has never missed school due to illness.
(Of course we'll all get the flu this year)
My family does get the flu shot.....I never have.
Worse is disingenuous.
2,000,000 were going to die.
If Faucci had told the country back in Feb:
1). Hardly anyone under the age of 30 will be affected at all
2) A large segment of the population may already have an immune response from previous coronaviruses
3). most people who get it won’t experience any symptoms, those under age 50 will likely experience moderate flu like symptoms
4) only 6% of fatalities from the virus will be in healthy people
5). Those over 65 and with comorbidities will be hardest hit with a possible death toll of 300,000 over a year’s time.
If that had been the narrative, then I guarantee the public would have REVOLTED before they allowed the Govt to bring financial ruin to the economy and millions of people. Most elderly people I know do NOT agree with shutting down the country.
We never closed for H1N1 and they were certain more than 300k were going to die.
@texdawg it's a mixture. Mostly our poor response. I never thought we'd have this many deaths with all the resources at our disposal. As far as the virus I didn't know it was going to cause so many debilitating chronic issues. Brain, heart, lung, and kidney damage are all things that are being seen in survivors. It's not all about the deaths but even that is high.
A few things
Bit repetitive but hopefully you get the drift. We were basically unprepared and as with any surprise attack the forward troops take the heaviest casualties.
EDIT Sorry should have added that the population density is also more akin to Europe. For example the UK has a population of 68 million but is only half the size of Texas.
Thank you for the response @YaleDawg but this is the question I am most interested in.
I'm genuinely interested in what you and @Denmen185 say about this.
I am obviously not an expert.
I agree with your points. I just don’t think they ever contained it. That’s not on their leadership. I just never believed they could contain it. Cuomo himself said 60% percent of their infections came while in quarantine.
We’ll know soon enough. I’m hopeful it spread so quickly that there won’t be a second wave. The idea that they have somehow “eradicated” the virus is foolhardy.
That's like asking "what did you think of the game" halfway through the first quarter (not counting the WLOCP 2017!). It is better than I thought thus far as the spread was way slower across the country than I thought. Having said that I think that will change to worse over the next month or so barring a miracle as the reprieve granted was not taken advantage of.
Thank you. What do you mean by the reprieve granted was not taken advantage of?
So you start with what you know about the virus and as an exercise describe a plan that would completely stop the spread but is impractical and then work backwards to something manageable. We know it spreads via coughing and somewhat through breathing during close contact. It also spreads easier indoors. Symptoms take several days to about a little over a week to show up from the first day of infection. With this info the 100% foolproof way to stop the spread would be to have everyone stay at home at least 6 feet apart and not go anywhere for 2-3 weeks. After those 2-3 weeks those without symptoms are fine to re-enter society and those with symptoms will continue to isolate and go to the hospital if necessary until the virus has run its course. Obviously this won't work. The next step back would be the European model. Only grocery stores and pharmacies open with no travel allowed. Unless you're an essential worker you stay at home. This has worked pretty well in stopping the spread. Given the death rate and chronic issues we are seeing it is necessary to stop the spread.
@Bankwalker Cuomo certainly said that but that was at a time when the community spread had gathered a lot of steam. There wasn't quarantine at the same level as say Spain where children for instance were not allowed out of the house/apartment for 6 weeks. The problem was that if everyone is in quarantine then the vast majority of new cases has to be within the family/household. That statement was I believe while the cases were on the way down.
FWIW In my subdivision there were a number of cases where during stay-at-home that I saw a few house parties for birthdays, baby showers and graduations. This would not have happened in Europe
Can someone tell me how long it takes to get results from a Real Time PCR test for Covid?