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The Braves traded 3 good prospects for a .205 hitter...

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  • MacDawg15MacDawg15 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PeachCoDawg said:
    At least I'll always have '91,'92, and 95. Those were magical years. The whole streak was good baseball, but embarrassing playoff losses, especially '96. Smoltz was the man. That Game 7 duel w/ Jack Morris is one of the best games I've ever seen. What a beautiful delivery he had.

    Lame trade. All or nothing swinger. Good glove. But
    .205? Come on Braves! If you're gonna make a move, then make a MOVE. We're not going anywhere this year anyway. Just a few games over .500 now. They're losing it

    Guys all the studs have already been traded.. There are no Machado's left out there to trade for..

  • WCDawgWCDawg ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @MacDawg15 said:
    Future?? Was Walker ever gonna be a starter? Sims got lit like a Christmas tree... In baseball there are ALWAYS trades like this. Will this guy pan out etc. But do you think you or any of us know more about each and every prospect in the system?? I think with Folty, Newcombe, Fried, Allard, Soroka, Gohara etc; we can afford to giveup a POSSIBLE average MLB pitcher in Sims for the POSSIBILITY of not having to have 2 catchers that have never hit for power in the 5 hole, where it's your job to hit with pop and drive in runs. Who gives a %^$# if he goes 1 for 4 with 3 k's if he dropped a 3 run bomb dude.. Baseball trades can be make or break on both ends. BUT given the situation we're in with all the young arm talent that'll be in the show soon ( and thrive), IMO we need ANYBODY that has pop in this lineup.. It's not like this guy is gonna be an everyday player for years to come. AND he's a cheap get. I think the front office goes through pros and cons alot more than us. I'm sorry man, but if you think Sims was the future; I assure you he's not. The names mentioned above ARE our future arms.. IF Sims turns out to even be a 12 game winner in the next 3-4 years call me out on it..

    If Sims is converted to a middle reliever and has fairly good success this is a bad trade.

  • CZCashvilleDawgCZCashvilleDawg ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:
    Adam Duvall is 29, he's a career .239 hitter who is hitting .205 with a .289 OBP this season.
    What a lame arse move.

    He was brought in as a sub player (corner outfield spots & 1st Base) along with a right handed bat off the bench.

    As mentioned above, the guys trades were no longer in the Braves front offices long term plans. Didn’t give up the farm for rental (which I love) but got better on the bench, which along with relief were glaring holes.

    .205 BA and .289 OBP is not getting better in any way.

    Obviously the Braves brass forgot to give you a call for approval. My guess is they know what they are doing.

  • MacDawg15MacDawg15 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    He worked in relief with us and got lit like a candle in the dark, but more specifically didn't have command of his pitches. Who cares if you throw a devastating slider and filthy changeup if you can't spot it up?

  • PeachCoDawgPeachCoDawg ✭✭✭✭ Senior
    edited July 2018

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:
    At least I'll always have '91,'92, and 95. Those were magical years. The whole streak was good baseball, but embarrassing playoff losses, especially '96. Smoltz was the man. That Game 7 duel w/ Jack Morris is one of the best games I've ever seen. What a beautiful delivery he had.

    Lame trade. All or nothing swinger. Good glove. But
    .205? Come on Braves! If you're gonna make a move, then make a MOVE. We're not going anywhere this year anyway. Just a few games over .500 now. They're losing it

    Guys all the studs have already been traded.. There are no Machado's left out there to trade for..

    No, I gotcha @MacDawg15. I didn't want Machado anyway. No way we would've worked a deal out. I was just saying in general....Don't puzzyfoot around! I wouldn't trade the bat boy for this guy. I can't watch baseball anymore anyway. Too slow.
    Actually I'll just sit n see. Maybe we get some production out of him. I just hate trading guys for next to nothing

  • MacDawg15MacDawg15 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PeachCoDawg said:

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:
    At least I'll always have '91,'92, and 95. Those were magical years. The whole streak was good baseball, but embarrassing playoff losses, especially '96. Smoltz was the man. That Game 7 duel w/ Jack Morris is one of the best games I've ever seen. What a beautiful delivery he had.

    Lame trade. All or nothing swinger. Good glove. But
    .205? Come on Braves! If you're gonna make a move, then make a MOVE. We're not going anywhere this year anyway. Just a few games over .500 now. They're losing it

    Guys all the studs have already been traded.. There are no Machado's left out there to trade for..

    No, I gotcha @MacDawg15. I didn't want Machado anyway. No way we would've worked a deal out. I was just saying in general....Don't puzzyfoot around! I wouldn't trade the bat boy for this guy. I can't watch baseball anymore anyway. Too slow

    Well it can go like this. He does absolutely nothing for us, but we still didn't lose anybody that was in our future plans. OR the dude could come up with some big hits to help win a few games here and there. And yes .205 is terrible but have you ever hit off of big league pitching? My 1st career pro ball hit was off of Pedro Bourbon and even at the last days of his career looked pretty **** salty from an on deck circle. These guys are facing the best arms on earth.. I assure you as slow as it may look on tv, it **** sure ain't like that when your in the box and hear the ball coming in.....

  • MacDawg15MacDawg15 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PeachCoDawg said:

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:
    At least I'll always have '91,'92, and 95. Those were magical years. The whole streak was good baseball, but embarrassing playoff losses, especially '96. Smoltz was the man. That Game 7 duel w/ Jack Morris is one of the best games I've ever seen. What a beautiful delivery he had.

    Lame trade. All or nothing swinger. Good glove. But
    .205? Come on Braves! If you're gonna make a move, then make a MOVE. We're not going anywhere this year anyway. Just a few games over .500 now. They're losing it

    Guys all the studs have already been traded.. There are no Machado's left out there to trade for..

    No, I gotcha @MacDawg15. I didn't want Machado anyway. No way we would've worked a deal out. I was just saying in general....Don't puzzyfoot around! I wouldn't trade the bat boy for this guy. I can't watch baseball anymore anyway. Too slow.
    Actually I'll just sit n see. Maybe we get some production out of him. I just hate trading guys for next to nothing

    Lol for nothing? WTH were the other 3 doing to help us win ballgames?

  • PeachCoDawgPeachCoDawg ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    No, I gotcha @MacDawg15. I didn't want Machado anyway. No way we would've worked a deal out. I was just saying in general....Don't puzzyfoot around! I wouldn't trade the bat boy for this guy. I can't watch baseball anymore anyway. Too slow

    @MacDawg15 said
    Well it can go like this. He does absolutely nothing for us, but we still didn't lose anybody that was in our future plans. OR the dude could come up with some big hits to help win a few games here and there. And yes .205 is terrible but have you ever hit off of big league pitching? My 1st career pro ball hit was off of Pedro Bourbon and even at the last days of his career looked pretty **** salty from an on deck circle. These guys are facing the best arms on earth.. I assure you as slow as it may look on tv, it **** sure ain't like that when your in the box and hear the ball coming in.....

    I agree somewhat. I'll sit back and see. It's really just a knee jerk reaction to the Braves staying in mediocrity. You played pro ball? I played HS and 2 years at GA Southwestern as a walk on. Played against many future pros, especially from Jones Co. Only pro I hit against was Kevin Brown. That was the shhhhhh......

  • PeachCoDawgPeachCoDawg ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:
    At least I'll always have '91,'92, and 95. Those were magical years. The whole streak was good baseball, but embarrassing playoff losses, especially '96. Smoltz was the man. That Game 7 duel w/ Jack Morris is one of the best games I've ever seen. What a beautiful delivery he had.

    Lame trade. All or nothing swinger. Good glove. But
    .205? Come on Braves! If you're gonna make a move, then make a MOVE. We're not going anywhere this year anyway. Just a few games over .500 now. They're losing it

    Guys all the studs have already been traded.. There are no Machado's left out there to trade for..

    No, I gotcha @MacDawg15. I didn't want Machado anyway. No way we would've worked a deal out. I was just saying in general....Don't puzzyfoot around! I wouldn't trade the bat boy for this guy. I can't watch baseball anymore anyway. Too slow.
    Actually I'll just sit n see. Maybe we get some production out of him. I just hate trading guys for next to nothing

    Lol for nothing? WTH were the other 3 doing to help us win ballgames?

    Dude I'm just disagreeing. You wanna argue or what? I went back and changed my post while you were still writing. I thought you'd be someone cool to talk baseball with.....???

  • MacDawg15MacDawg15 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PeachCoDawg said:

    No, I gotcha @MacDawg15. I didn't want Machado anyway. No way we would've worked a deal out. I was just saying in general....Don't puzzyfoot around! I wouldn't trade the bat boy for this guy. I can't watch baseball anymore anyway. Too slow

    @MacDawg15 said
    Well it can go like this. He does absolutely nothing for us, but we still didn't lose anybody that was in our future plans. OR the dude could come up with some big hits to help win a few games here and there. And yes .205 is terrible but have you ever hit off of big league pitching? My 1st career pro ball hit was off of Pedro Bourbon and even at the last days of his career looked pretty **** salty from an on deck circle. These guys are facing the best arms on earth.. I assure you as slow as it may look on tv, it **** sure ain't like that when your in the box and hear the ball coming in.....

    I agree somewhat. I'll sit back and see. It's really just a knee jerk reaction to the Braves staying in mediocrity. You played pro ball? I played HS and 2 years at GA Southwestern as a walk on. Played against many future pros, especially from Jones Co. Only pro I hit against was Kevin Brown. That was the shhhhhh......

    Yea Bourbon, Steve Bourgouis (used to be with the Rockies), and some lesser known guys that may have just had a short splash in the show. Bourbon hit me in the middle of the back after I singled off him up the middle in my 1st AB against him lol.

  • donmdonm ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:
    Adam Duvall is 29, he's a career .239 hitter who is hitting .205 with a .289 OBP this season.
    What a lame arse move.

    He was brought in as a sub player (corner outfield spots & 1st Base) along with a right handed bat off the bench.

    As mentioned above, the guys trades were no longer in the Braves front offices long term plans. Didn’t give up the farm for rental (which I love) but got better on the bench, which along with relief were glaring holes.

    .205 BA and .289 OBP is not getting better in any way.

    Obviously the Braves brass forgot to give you a call for approval. My guess is they know what they are doing.

    Not sure I'd agree with that. They are making value judgements, and, for every good trade, their is an equally bad trade out there somewhere. The Braves don't have to look far to find some bad trades. "Brass" doesn't always know what it's doing. Time will tell if this is a helpful trade. Hopefully, Kevin Seitzer can get Duvall's strikeouts down and his balls in play up a bit.

  • PeachCoDawgPeachCoDawg ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:

    No, I gotcha @MacDawg15. I didn't want Machado anyway. No way we would've worked a deal out. I was just saying in general....Don't puzzyfoot around! I wouldn't trade the bat boy for this guy. I can't watch baseball anymore anyway. Too slow

    @MacDawg15 said
    Well it can go like this. He does absolutely nothing for us, but we still didn't lose anybody that was in our future plans. OR the dude could come up with some big hits to help win a few games here and there. And yes .205 is terrible but have you ever hit off of big league pitching? My 1st career pro ball hit was off of Pedro Bourbon and even at the last days of his career looked pretty **** salty from an on deck circle. These guys are facing the best arms on earth.. I assure you as slow as it may look on tv, it **** sure ain't like that when your in the box and hear the ball coming in.....

    I agree somewhat. I'll sit back and see. It's really just a knee jerk reaction to the Braves staying in mediocrity. You played pro ball? I played HS and 2 years at GA Southwestern as a walk on. Played against many future pros, especially from Jones Co. Only pro I hit against was Kevin Brown. That was the shhhhhh......

    Yea Bourbon, Steve Bourgouis (used to be with the Rockies), and some lesser known guys that may have just had a short splash in the show. Bourbon hit me in the middle of the back after I singled off him up the middle in my 1st AB against him lol.

    Very cool lol. Good story! That cat could sling it even in his later years

  • MacDawg15MacDawg15 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I know you remember a certain Ga hs boy the Braves took in the 1st round in 01? He used to get a tude bcuz I prob hit over .500 against him in hs. Same region

  • MacDawg15MacDawg15 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PeachCoDawg said:

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:
    At least I'll always have '91,'92, and 95. Those were magical years. The whole streak was good baseball, but embarrassing playoff losses, especially '96. Smoltz was the man. That Game 7 duel w/ Jack Morris is one of the best games I've ever seen. What a beautiful delivery he had.

    Lame trade. All or nothing swinger. Good glove. But
    .205? Come on Braves! If you're gonna make a move, then make a MOVE. We're not going anywhere this year anyway. Just a few games over .500 now. They're losing it

    Guys all the studs have already been traded.. There are no Machado's left out there to trade for..

    No, I gotcha @MacDawg15. I didn't want Machado anyway. No way we would've worked a deal out. I was just saying in general....Don't puzzyfoot around! I wouldn't trade the bat boy for this guy. I can't watch baseball anymore anyway. Too slow.
    Actually I'll just sit n see. Maybe we get some production out of him. I just hate trading guys for next to nothing

    Lol for nothing? WTH were the other 3 doing to help us win ballgames?

    Dude I'm just disagreeing. You wanna argue or what? I went back and changed my post while you were still writing. I thought you'd be someone cool to talk baseball with.....???

    No hostility from me brother lol. I was just trying to stress those 3 guys haven't and aren't doing anything for us lol. Wasn't meaning any harm.

  • PeachCoDawgPeachCoDawg ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    @MacDawg15 said:
    I know you remember a certain Ga hs boy the Braves took in the 1st round in 01? He used to get a tude bcuz I prob hit over .500 against him in hs. Same region

    You mean...****... I know who you're talking about. My brother played against him. Can't remember his name for anything. Seems like it started with a J. White or black guy? I'm thinking it was either Rondale White or Green's cousin or nephew. Just can't remember

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