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The Braves traded 3 good prospects for a .205 hitter...

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @brentwilson said:
    he has 15 homers this season

    That is fools; bait .a few HRs spread over 90 games with almost no other production is almost meaningless.
    The advanced metrics are awful.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PTDawg said:
    Another key to the deal is that Duvall is inexpensive ( I believe I saw salary of 645k) and is under team control for I think 3 more years. Those are important details to the deal as well.

    @PTDawg said:
    Another key to the deal is that Duvall is inexpensive ( I believe I saw salary of 645k) and is under team control for I think 3 more years. Those are important details to the deal as well.

    @PTDawg said:
    Another key to the deal is that Duvall is inexpensive ( I believe I saw salary of 645k) and is under team control for I think 3 more years. Those are important details to the deal as well.

    Important details because as I've stated before, Liberty is cheap as hell.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:
    Adam Duvall is 29, he's a career .239 hitter who is hitting .205 with a .289 OBP this season.
    What a lame arse move.

    He was brought in as a sub player (corner outfield spots & 1st Base) along with a right handed bat off the bench.

    As mentioned above, the guys trades were no longer in the Braves front offices long term plans. Didn’t give up the farm for rental (which I love) but got better on the bench, which along with relief were glaring holes.

    .205 BA and .289 OBP is not getting better in any way.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @BEACHDAWG said:
    Duval is the right handed bat we need. Six of last seven losses to LHP. Ender is my fav, but he has been real inconsistent vs leftys. Guys who left were no longer in our plans. Tookie Toussaint last night in Gwinnett....nice. Allard starting tonigjt vs Marlins, does any team have more players born in 1997 than Braves?

    WOW...he's hitting .205. ''the right handed bat we need'', on what planet ?
    This is like signing a starting pitcher with a 7.00 ERA in 2018 and a career 6.00 ERA.

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @brentwilson said:
    i want Touki Toussaint to get a chance

    @brentwilson said:
    i want Touki Toussaint to get a chance

    He will, soon.

  • MacDawg15MacDawg15 Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @brentwilson said:
    he has 15 homers this season

    That is fools; bait .a few HRs spread over 90 games with almost no other production is almost meaningless.
    The advanced metrics are awful.

    Yea he's below the Mendoza line. But let me ask this; are any of the 3 leaving gonna help us down the stretch? I was in pro ball for 3 years and its jmo, but not 1 of the 3 leaving would contribute on a consistent basis either this year or in the future.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @brentwilson said:
    he has 15 homers this season

    That is fools; bait .a few HRs spread over 90 games with almost no other production is almost meaningless.
    The advanced metrics are awful.

    Yea he's below the Mendoza line. But let me ask this; are any of the 3 leaving gonna help us down the stretch? I was in pro ball for 3 years and its jmo, but not 1 of the 3 leaving would contribute on a consistent basis either this year or in the future.

    ''DOWN THE STRETCH'' do you sell the future for a .205 hitter because the players you give up aren't ready now ?
    This looks like a terrible trade. It reeks of looking for the cheapest option possible.

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @brentwilson said:
    he has 15 homers this season

    That is fools; bait .a few HRs spread over 90 games with almost no other production is almost meaningless.
    The advanced metrics are awful.

    Yea he's below the Mendoza line. But let me ask this; are any of the 3 leaving gonna help us down the stretch? I was in pro ball for 3 years and its jmo, but not 1 of the 3 leaving would contribute on a consistent basis either this year or in the future.

    ''DOWN THE STRETCH'' do you sell the future for a .205 hitter because the players you give up aren't ready now ?
    This looks like a terrible trade. It reeks of looking for the cheapest option possible.

    I guess the Braves thought the three would never be "ready". In the meantime, if Duvall can hit a HR or two at an opportune time, it might help win a game or two...in a close pennant race, that might be very good. I admit, he's not a threat to be a full-time starter and 30 HR kind of guy...one trick pony....a certain set of skills....but potentially helpful.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @donm said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @brentwilson said:
    he has 15 homers this season

    That is fools; bait .a few HRs spread over 90 games with almost no other production is almost meaningless.
    The advanced metrics are awful.

    Yea he's below the Mendoza line. But let me ask this; are any of the 3 leaving gonna help us down the stretch? I was in pro ball for 3 years and its jmo, but not 1 of the 3 leaving would contribute on a consistent basis either this year or in the future.

    ''DOWN THE STRETCH'' do you sell the future for a .205 hitter because the players you give up aren't ready now ?
    This looks like a terrible trade. It reeks of looking for the cheapest option possible.

    I guess the Braves thought the three would never be "ready". In the meantime, if Duvall can hit a HR or two at an opportune time, it might help win a game or two...in a close pennant race, that might be very good. I admit, he's not a threat to be a full-time starter and 30 HR kind of guy...one trick pony....a certain set of skills....but potentially helpful.

    A ''hr or 2'' won't be a net gain if he fails on most at bats.

  • PeachCoDawgPeachCoDawg Posts: 489 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    At least I'll always have '91,'92, and 95. Those were magical years. The whole streak was good baseball, but embarrassing playoff losses, especially '96. Smoltz was the man. That Game 7 duel w/ Jack Morris is one of the best games I've ever seen. What a beautiful delivery he had.

    Lame trade. All or nothing swinger. Good glove. But
    .205? Come on Braves! If you're gonna make a move, then make a MOVE. We're not going anywhere this year anyway. Just a few games over .500 now. They're losing it

  • DawginSCDawginSC Posts: 792 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:
    Adam Duvall is 29, he's a career .239 hitter who is hitting .205 with a .289 OBP this season.
    What a lame arse move.

    He was brought in as a sub player (corner outfield spots & 1st Base) along with a right handed bat off the bench.

    As mentioned above, the guys trades were no longer in the Braves front offices long term plans. Didn’t give up the farm for rental (which I love) but got better on the bench, which along with relief were glaring holes.

    .205 BA and .289 OBP is not getting better in any way.

    Well... .224 and .333 vs lefties if that's how he's going to be used.

  • MacDawg15MacDawg15 Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Future?? Was Walker ever gonna be a starter? Sims got lit like a Christmas tree... In baseball there are ALWAYS trades like this. Will this guy pan out etc. But do you think you or any of us know more about each and every prospect in the system?? I think with Folty, Newcombe, Fried, Allard, Soroka, Gohara etc; we can afford to giveup a POSSIBLE average MLB pitcher in Sims for the POSSIBILITY of not having to have 2 catchers that have never hit for power in the 5 hole, where it's your job to hit with pop and drive in runs. Who gives a %^$# if he goes 1 for 4 with 3 k's if he dropped a 3 run bomb dude.. Baseball trades can be make or break on both ends. BUT given the situation we're in with all the young arm talent that'll be in the show soon ( and thrive), IMO we need ANYBODY that has pop in this lineup.. It's not like this guy is gonna be an everyday player for years to come. AND he's a cheap get. I think the front office goes through pros and cons alot more than us. I'm sorry man, but if you think Sims was the future; I assure you he's not. The names mentioned above ARE our future arms.. IF Sims turns out to even be a 12 game winner in the next 3-4 years call me out on it..

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @DawginSC said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:
    Adam Duvall is 29, he's a career .239 hitter who is hitting .205 with a .289 OBP this season.
    What a lame arse move.

    He was brought in as a sub player (corner outfield spots & 1st Base) along with a right handed bat off the bench.

    As mentioned above, the guys trades were no longer in the Braves front offices long term plans. Didn’t give up the farm for rental (which I love) but got better on the bench, which along with relief were glaring holes.

    .205 BA and .289 OBP is not getting better in any way.

    Well... .224 and .333 vs lefties if that's how he's going to be used.

    .224, that is still pathetic.

  • MacDawg15MacDawg15 Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @donm said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @brentwilson said:
    he has 15 homers this season

    That is fools; bait .a few HRs spread over 90 games with almost no other production is almost meaningless.
    The advanced metrics are awful.

    Yea he's below the Mendoza line. But let me ask this; are any of the 3 leaving gonna help us down the stretch? I was in pro ball for 3 years and its jmo, but not 1 of the 3 leaving would contribute on a consistent basis either this year or in the future.

    ''DOWN THE STRETCH'' do you sell the future for a .205 hitter because the players you give up aren't ready now ?
    This looks like a terrible trade. It reeks of looking for the cheapest option possible.

    I guess the Braves thought the three would never be "ready". In the meantime, if Duvall can hit a HR or two at an opportune time, it might help win a game or two...in a close pennant race, that might be very good. I admit, he's not a threat to be a full-time starter and 30 HR kind of guy...one trick pony....a certain set of skills....but potentially helpful.

    EXACTLY!!

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @MacDawg15 said:
    Future?? Was Walker ever gonna be a starter? Sims got lit like a Christmas tree... In baseball there are ALWAYS trades like this. Will this guy pan out etc. But do you think you or any of us know more about each and every prospect in the system?? I think with Folty, Newcombe, Fried, Allard, Soroka, Gohara etc; we can afford to giveup a POSSIBLE average MLB pitcher in Sims for the POSSIBILITY of not having to have 2 catchers that have never hit for power in the 5 hole, where it's your job to hit with pop and drive in runs. Who gives a %^$# if he goes 1 for 4 with 3 k's if he dropped a 3 run bomb dude.. Baseball trades can be make or break on both ends. BUT given the situation we're in with all the young arm talent that'll be in the show soon ( and thrive), IMO we need ANYBODY that has pop in this lineup.. It's not like this guy is gonna be an everyday player for years to come. AND he's a cheap get. I think the front office goes through pros and cons alot more than us. I'm sorry man, but if you think Sims was the future; I assure you he's not. The names mentioned above ARE our future arms.. IF Sims turns out to even be a 12 game winner in the next 3-4 years call me out on it..

    Show me where we've ever traded for a .205 hitter in the past.

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