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The Braves traded 3 good prospects for a .205 hitter...

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @MacDawg15 said:
    He worked in relief with us and got lit like a candle in the dark, but more specifically didn't have command of his pitches. Who cares if you throw a devastating slider and filthy changeup if you can't spot it up?

    Have you watched much baseball, specifically MLB ?

    It's not uncommon for players with arm talent to gain control relatively late. It's unheard of for hitters who can't hit to start hitting at 29 years old or older.
    This is about Liberty finding the absolute cheapest option on the market.

  • PeachCoDawgPeachCoDawg Posts: 489 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Spell check mistake

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @donm said:

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:
    Adam Duvall is 29, he's a career .239 hitter who is hitting .205 with a .289 OBP this season.
    What a lame arse move.

    He was brought in as a sub player (corner outfield spots & 1st Base) along with a right handed bat off the bench.

    As mentioned above, the guys trades were no longer in the Braves front offices long term plans. Didn’t give up the farm for rental (which I love) but got better on the bench, which along with relief were glaring holes.

    .205 BA and .289 OBP is not getting better in any way.

    Obviously the Braves brass forgot to give you a call for approval. My guess is they know what they are doing.

    Not sure I'd agree with that. They are making value judgements, and, for every good trade, their is an equally bad trade out there somewhere. The Braves don't have to look far to find some bad trades. "Brass" doesn't always know what it's doing. Time will tell if this is a helpful trade. Hopefully, Kevin Seitzer can get Duvall's strikeouts down and his balls in play up a bit.

    This is a CHEAP move...period.

  • MacDawg15MacDawg15 Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PeachCoDawg said:

    @MacDawg15 said:
    I know you remember a certain Ga hs boy the Braves took in the 1st round in 01? He used to get a tude bcuz I prob hit over .500 against him in hs. Same region

    You mean...****... I know who you're talking about. My brother played against him. Can't remember his name for anything. Seems like it started with a J. White or black guy? I'm thinking it was either Rondale White or Green's cousin or nephew. Just can't remember

    initials were MM

  • CZCashvilleDawgCZCashvilleDawg Posts: 9,360 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2018

    @donm said:

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:
    Adam Duvall is 29, he's a career .239 hitter who is hitting .205 with a .289 OBP this season.
    What a lame arse move.

    He was brought in as a sub player (corner outfield spots & 1st Base) along with a right handed bat off the bench.

    As mentioned above, the guys trades were no longer in the Braves front offices long term plans. Didn’t give up the farm for rental (which I love) but got better on the bench, which along with relief were glaring holes.

    .205 BA and .289 OBP is not getting better in any way.

    Obviously the Braves brass forgot to give you a call for approval. My guess is they know what they are doing.

    Not sure I'd agree with that. They are making value judgements, and, for every good trade, their is an equally bad trade out there somewhere. The Braves don't have to look far to find some bad trades. "Brass" doesn't always know what it's doing. Time will tell if this is a helpful trade. Hopefully, Kevin Seitzer can get Duvall's strikeouts down and his balls in play up a bit.

    They were not going to make any big moves this year ( as most in the know say the team is ahead of schedule). Expecting them to and complaining on anything less is pointless.

    The good trade / bad trade portion of your comment seems equivalent to be just sitting on the fence.

    What I meant was, obviously the brass has a plan in place and valued this player over the theee traded. It may work or it won’t.

    I never once said I liked the trade or this is going to be the trade to put us over the top.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PeachCoDawg said:

    No, I gotcha @MacDawg15. I didn't want Machado anyway. No way we would've worked a deal out. I was just saying in general....Don't puzzyfoot around! I wouldn't trade the bat boy for this guy. I can't watch baseball anymore anyway. Too slow

    @MacDawg15 said
    Well it can go like this. He does absolutely nothing for us, but we still didn't lose anybody that was in our future plans. OR the dude could come up with some big hits to help win a few games here and there. And yes .205 is terrible but have you ever hit off of big league pitching? My 1st career pro ball hit was off of Pedro Bourbon and even at the last days of his career looked pretty **** salty from an on deck circle. These guys are facing the best arms on earth.. I assure you as slow as it may look on tv, it **** sure ain't like that when your in the box and hear the ball coming in.....

    I agree somewhat. I'll sit back and see. It's really just a knee jerk reaction to the Braves staying in mediocrity. You played pro ball? I played HS and 2 years at GA Southwestern as a walk on. Played against many future pros, especially from Jones Co. Only pro I hit against was Kevin Brown. That was the shhhhhh......

    You pussed out.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:
    Adam Duvall is 29, he's a career .239 hitter who is hitting .205 with a .289 OBP this season.
    What a lame arse move.

    He was brought in as a sub player (corner outfield spots & 1st Base) along with a right handed bat off the bench.

    As mentioned above, the guys trades were no longer in the Braves front offices long term plans. Didn’t give up the farm for rental (which I love) but got better on the bench, which along with relief were glaring holes.

    .205 BA and .289 OBP is not getting better in any way.

    Obviously the Braves brass forgot to give you a call for approval. My guess is they know what they are doing.

    Trash post.

  • MacDawg15MacDawg15 Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @MacDawg15 said:
    He worked in relief with us and got lit like a candle in the dark, but more specifically didn't have command of his pitches. Who cares if you throw a devastating slider and filthy changeup if you can't spot it up?

    Have you watched much baseball, specifically MLB ?

    It's not uncommon for players with arm talent to gain control relatively late. It's unheard of for hitters who can't hit to start hitting at 29 years old or older.
    This is about Liberty finding the absolute cheapest option on the market.

    Dude I was a catcher, played 3 yrs of minor league ball and have ran a baseball academy for hs and college players for a decade but I have no idea how MLB works. I was unaware some people like Sherzer pick it up a lil later than a stud like Kershaw.. Are you serious??

  • PeachCoDawgPeachCoDawg Posts: 489 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    @WCDawg said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:

    No, I gotcha @MacDawg15. I didn't want Machado anyway. No way we would've worked a deal out. I was just saying in general....Don't puzzyfoot around! I wouldn't trade the bat boy for this guy. I can't watch baseball anymore anyway. Too slow

    @MacDawg15 said
    Well it can go like this. He does absolutely nothing for us, but we still didn't lose anybody that was in our future plans. OR the dude could come up with some big hits to help win a few games here and there. And yes .205 is terrible but have you ever hit off of big league pitching? My 1st career pro ball hit was off of Pedro Bourbon and even at the last days of his career looked pretty **** salty from an on deck circle. These guys are facing the best arms on earth.. I assure you as slow as it may look on tv, it **** sure ain't like that when your in the box and hear the ball coming in.....

    I agree somewhat. I'll sit back and see. It's really just a knee jerk reaction to the Braves staying in mediocrity. You played pro ball? I played HS and 2 years at GA Southwestern as a walk on. Played against many future pros, especially from Jones Co. Only pro I hit against was Kevin Brown. That was the shhhhhh......

    You pussed out.

    Not totally. I'm sticking to my guns that it was a **** trade but willing to see it play out. He could help in certain situations but still a **** trade

  • CZCashvilleDawgCZCashvilleDawg Posts: 9,360 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:
    Adam Duvall is 29, he's a career .239 hitter who is hitting .205 with a .289 OBP this season.
    What a lame arse move.

    He was brought in as a sub player (corner outfield spots & 1st Base) along with a right handed bat off the bench.

    As mentioned above, the guys trades were no longer in the Braves front offices long term plans. Didn’t give up the farm for rental (which I love) but got better on the bench, which along with relief were glaring holes.

    .205 BA and .289 OBP is not getting better in any way.

    Obviously the Braves brass forgot to give you a call for approval. My guess is they know what they are doing.

    Trash post.

    Trash poster^

  • MacDawg15MacDawg15 Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:

    @MacDawg15 said:
    I know you remember a certain Ga hs boy the Braves took in the 1st round in 01? He used to get a tude bcuz I prob hit over .500 against him in hs. Same region

    You mean...****... I know who you're talking about. My brother played against him. Can't remember his name for anything. Seems like it started with a J. White or black guy? I'm thinking it was either Rondale White or Green's cousin or nephew. Just can't remember

    initials were MM

    N I remember a **** good catcher that we let go that was working bagging groceries or something but won a ring with the Astros.. He **** sure wasn't 24... Baseball isn't like other sports. Chipper used to struggle against a certain guy but McCann had a field day off of him.. It's inexplainable and what makes it intriguing.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @MacDawg15 said:
    He worked in relief with us and got lit like a candle in the dark, but more specifically didn't have command of his pitches. Who cares if you throw a devastating slider and filthy changeup if you can't spot it up?

    Have you watched much baseball, specifically MLB ?

    It's not uncommon for players with arm talent to gain control relatively late. It's unheard of for hitters who can't hit to start hitting at 29 years old or older.
    This is about Liberty finding the absolute cheapest option on the market.

    Dude I was a catcher, played 3 yrs of minor league ball and have ran a baseball academy for hs and college players for a decade but I have no idea how MLB works. I was unaware some people like Sherzer pick it up a lil later than a stud like Kershaw.. Are you serious??

    Then why do you assume a young pitcher with arm talent won't have future value ?

  • PeachCoDawgPeachCoDawg Posts: 489 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:

    @MacDawg15 said:
    I know you remember a certain Ga hs boy the Braves took in the 1st round in 01? He used to get a tude bcuz I prob hit over .500 against him in hs. Same region

    You mean...****... I know who you're talking about. My brother played against him. Can't remember his name for anything. Seems like it started with a J. White or black guy? I'm thinking it was either Rondale White or Green's cousin or nephew. Just can't remember

    initials were MM

    N I remember a **** good catcher that we let go that was working bagging groceries or something but won a ring with the Astros.. He **** sure wasn't 24... Baseball isn't like other sports. Chipper used to struggle against a certain guy but McCann had a field day off of him.. It's inexplainable and what makes it intriguing.

    Where did Saltalamachia go? If I ever came close to spelling that right it's all good

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:
    Adam Duvall is 29, he's a career .239 hitter who is hitting .205 with a .289 OBP this season.
    What a lame arse move.

    He was brought in as a sub player (corner outfield spots & 1st Base) along with a right handed bat off the bench.

    As mentioned above, the guys trades were no longer in the Braves front offices long term plans. Didn’t give up the farm for rental (which I love) but got better on the bench, which along with relief were glaring holes.

    .205 BA and .289 OBP is not getting better in any way.

    Obviously the Braves brass forgot to give you a call for approval. My guess is they know what they are doing.

    Trash post.

    Trash poster^

    Trash person.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PeachCoDawg said:

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @MacDawg15 said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:

    @MacDawg15 said:
    I know you remember a certain Ga hs boy the Braves took in the 1st round in 01? He used to get a tude bcuz I prob hit over .500 against him in hs. Same region

    You mean...****... I know who you're talking about. My brother played against him. Can't remember his name for anything. Seems like it started with a J. White or black guy? I'm thinking it was either Rondale White or Green's cousin or nephew. Just can't remember

    initials were MM

    N I remember a **** good catcher that we let go that was working bagging groceries or something but won a ring with the Astros.. He **** sure wasn't 24... Baseball isn't like other sports. Chipper used to struggle against a certain guy but McCann had a field day off of him.. It's inexplainable and what makes it intriguing.

    Where did Saltalamachia go? If I ever came close to spelling that right it's all good

    The Rangers if my memory serves me correctly. He was a starter for several years.

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