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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @BamaDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    Smart's reaction when asked if people saw the practice seems telling. He switched to they aren't a problem, to focus on reporters, he was being disingenuous. He was mad about being asked a question and made a suggestion about something he was clearly wrong about. No media outlet was reporting the injury prior to the presser, it came from the gentrified folks who got to watch practice in exchange for cash.
    So 1100 schmos can watch, but not reporters.
    Some you are humbling yourselves below ''boosters''. This is not what CBF has been about since it's inception. The game is being handed to the money men. Bama is actually reducing stadium capacity to make room for 3000 seats for the gentry set.

    Back to the point. So Kirby can make a false claim, then retreat when he realizes it was probably people who are allowed to watch who spilled the beans, not reporters.

    I don't think apologizing for making a mistake is a bad thing. Au contraire.

    He didn't apologize, at least not during the presser, he just changed the subject and sort of pretended he meant something else.

    Apparently, he apologized off camera.

    The information surrounding Zamir's first ACL was that it was not so severe that he couldn't walk around on it for a couple of days before questioning it. What I remember was folks were optimistic he could return by the start of the season. When fall camp began he was "full go" which means the brace was a precaution. The doctors cleared Zamir to play and media reports said he seemed to be fine.

    Given this, what was the point of the question about Zamir being on punt returns? I understand why Kirby reacted as he did. The question implies Zamir should not have been playing special teams. It implies someone made a mistake playing him. The player had the go ahead. Why shouldn't he play on punt coverage?

    Zamir probably shouldn't have been playing gunner on a punt return just 8 months after surgery, there is little to no upside, huge downside.
    As for the brace, I've had femoral nerve constriction on my left side for 13 years. It causes pain and numbness down my left leg into the foot. When I'm on uneven ground it's not the left leg and knee that usually gets sprained though, it is the right side. We compensate by shifting weight and balance away from weakness and injury, that should have been considered with White wearing a brace, which in itself causes altered mechanics.

    I’ll email Ron Courson and ask him to resign so that you can fill in. If kirby makes another mistake like this, you’ll be able to take over for him too.

    I don't always agree with WCDawg or how he approaches thing, but he's got a good head on his shoulders. You are allowed to criticize people even if they have more knowledge than you on a subject, because people make mistakes and are always learning. . .especially in the field of medicine. Hindsight is obviously 20/20, but I do wonder if Zamir shouldn't have been held out of contact a bit longer. There's a lot of evidence that knee injuries in the "good knee" often occur after a recovery from an injury in the other knee. Even if his knee was structurally perfect, one could argue that his brain was still favoring the other one.

    Just to be clear, I don't fault Courson or Smart, and I think both are great at their jobs. That doesn't mean that they don't make mistakes or shouldn't reevaluate certain positions they have taken. H e l l, in a different setting, Kirby just argued how one always has to be willing to self-examine and reevaluate and adjust. That applies in everything, not just in schematic football.

    Was it not the other leg? If so, this being cleared crap is just that, crap.

    You seem to be missing a lot of today's conversation.

    Nah, you just seem to be doing what you do best, nothing. I went and looked just to make sure and it was the other knee. So I ask again Dr. Wc, since it was the other knee, how is you argument about him practicing relevant?

    I won't go back over today's conversation for you.

    Thank God. Not for sure I could take the ramblings of a 3rd grader any more.

    However. I will say that your ability to change directions when proven wrong is way above your reading comprehension skills.

    Don’t forget the straight ignoring tactic too

    Tell us about another rassler !

    You remind me of Mr. Perfect or "The Genius" Lanny Poffo....not sure which yet.

    I think I'd call myself Sonny Stunning or Sexy Steve Stunning if I was rasslin.

  • moosmoos Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Weird that there aren't any replies to this thread. I would have thought this would prove to be a controversial topic.

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 29,246 mod

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @BamaDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    Smart's reaction when asked if people saw the practice seems telling. He switched to they aren't a problem, to focus on reporters, he was being disingenuous. He was mad about being asked a question and made a suggestion about something he was clearly wrong about. No media outlet was reporting the injury prior to the presser, it came from the gentrified folks who got to watch practice in exchange for cash.
    So 1100 schmos can watch, but not reporters.
    Some you are humbling yourselves below ''boosters''. This is not what CBF has been about since it's inception. The game is being handed to the money men. Bama is actually reducing stadium capacity to make room for 3000 seats for the gentry set.

    Back to the point. So Kirby can make a false claim, then retreat when he realizes it was probably people who are allowed to watch who spilled the beans, not reporters.

    I don't think apologizing for making a mistake is a bad thing. Au contraire.

    He didn't apologize, at least not during the presser, he just changed the subject and sort of pretended he meant something else.

    Apparently, he apologized off camera.

    The information surrounding Zamir's first ACL was that it was not so severe that he couldn't walk around on it for a couple of days before questioning it. What I remember was folks were optimistic he could return by the start of the season. When fall camp began he was "full go" which means the brace was a precaution. The doctors cleared Zamir to play and media reports said he seemed to be fine.

    Given this, what was the point of the question about Zamir being on punt returns? I understand why Kirby reacted as he did. The question implies Zamir should not have been playing special teams. It implies someone made a mistake playing him. The player had the go ahead. Why shouldn't he play on punt coverage?

    Zamir probably shouldn't have been playing gunner on a punt return just 8 months after surgery, there is little to no upside, huge downside.
    As for the brace, I've had femoral nerve constriction on my left side for 13 years. It causes pain and numbness down my left leg into the foot. When I'm on uneven ground it's not the left leg and knee that usually gets sprained though, it is the right side. We compensate by shifting weight and balance away from weakness and injury, that should have been considered with White wearing a brace, which in itself causes altered mechanics.

    I’ll email Ron Courson and ask him to resign so that you can fill in. If kirby makes another mistake like this, you’ll be able to take over for him too.

    I don't always agree with WCDawg or how he approaches thing, but he's got a good head on his shoulders. You are allowed to criticize people even if they have more knowledge than you on a subject, because people make mistakes and are always learning. . .especially in the field of medicine. Hindsight is obviously 20/20, but I do wonder if Zamir shouldn't have been held out of contact a bit longer. There's a lot of evidence that knee injuries in the "good knee" often occur after a recovery from an injury in the other knee. Even if his knee was structurally perfect, one could argue that his brain was still favoring the other one.

    Just to be clear, I don't fault Courson or Smart, and I think both are great at their jobs. That doesn't mean that they don't make mistakes or shouldn't reevaluate certain positions they have taken. H e l l, in a different setting, Kirby just argued how one always has to be willing to self-examine and reevaluate and adjust. That applies in everything, not just in schematic football.

    Was it not the other leg? If so, this being cleared crap is just that, crap.

    You seem to be missing a lot of today's conversation.

    Nah, you just seem to be doing what you do best, nothing. I went and looked just to make sure and it was the other knee. So I ask again Dr. Wc, since it was the other knee, how is you argument about him practicing relevant?

    I won't go back over today's conversation for you.

    Thank God. Not for sure I could take the ramblings of a 3rd grader any more.

    However. I will say that your ability to change directions when proven wrong is way above your reading comprehension skills.

    Don’t forget the straight ignoring tactic too

    Tell us about another rassler !

    You remind me of Mr. Perfect or "The Genius" Lanny Poffo....not sure which yet.

    I think I'd call myself Sonny Stunning or Sexy Steve Stunning if I was rasslin.

    Don't besmirch the good name of Steve Austin by using former adjectives to describe him

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @BamaDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    Smart's reaction when asked if people saw the practice seems telling. He switched to they aren't a problem, to focus on reporters, he was being disingenuous. He was mad about being asked a question and made a suggestion about something he was clearly wrong about. No media outlet was reporting the injury prior to the presser, it came from the gentrified folks who got to watch practice in exchange for cash.
    So 1100 schmos can watch, but not reporters.
    Some you are humbling yourselves below ''boosters''. This is not what CBF has been about since it's inception. The game is being handed to the money men. Bama is actually reducing stadium capacity to make room for 3000 seats for the gentry set.

    Back to the point. So Kirby can make a false claim, then retreat when he realizes it was probably people who are allowed to watch who spilled the beans, not reporters.

    I don't think apologizing for making a mistake is a bad thing. Au contraire.

    He didn't apologize, at least not during the presser, he just changed the subject and sort of pretended he meant something else.

    Apparently, he apologized off camera.

    The information surrounding Zamir's first ACL was that it was not so severe that he couldn't walk around on it for a couple of days before questioning it. What I remember was folks were optimistic he could return by the start of the season. When fall camp began he was "full go" which means the brace was a precaution. The doctors cleared Zamir to play and media reports said he seemed to be fine.

    Given this, what was the point of the question about Zamir being on punt returns? I understand why Kirby reacted as he did. The question implies Zamir should not have been playing special teams. It implies someone made a mistake playing him. The player had the go ahead. Why shouldn't he play on punt coverage?

    Zamir probably shouldn't have been playing gunner on a punt return just 8 months after surgery, there is little to no upside, huge downside.
    As for the brace, I've had femoral nerve constriction on my left side for 13 years. It causes pain and numbness down my left leg into the foot. When I'm on uneven ground it's not the left leg and knee that usually gets sprained though, it is the right side. We compensate by shifting weight and balance away from weakness and injury, that should have been considered with White wearing a brace, which in itself causes altered mechanics.

    I’ll email Ron Courson and ask him to resign so that you can fill in. If kirby makes another mistake like this, you’ll be able to take over for him too.

    I don't always agree with WCDawg or how he approaches thing, but he's got a good head on his shoulders. You are allowed to criticize people even if they have more knowledge than you on a subject, because people make mistakes and are always learning. . .especially in the field of medicine. Hindsight is obviously 20/20, but I do wonder if Zamir shouldn't have been held out of contact a bit longer. There's a lot of evidence that knee injuries in the "good knee" often occur after a recovery from an injury in the other knee. Even if his knee was structurally perfect, one could argue that his brain was still favoring the other one.

    Just to be clear, I don't fault Courson or Smart, and I think both are great at their jobs. That doesn't mean that they don't make mistakes or shouldn't reevaluate certain positions they have taken. H e l l, in a different setting, Kirby just argued how one always has to be willing to self-examine and reevaluate and adjust. That applies in everything, not just in schematic football.

    Was it not the other leg? If so, this being cleared crap is just that, crap.

    You seem to be missing a lot of today's conversation.

    Nah, you just seem to be doing what you do best, nothing. I went and looked just to make sure and it was the other knee. So I ask again Dr. Wc, since it was the other knee, how is you argument about him practicing relevant?

    I won't go back over today's conversation for you.

    Thank God. Not for sure I could take the ramblings of a 3rd grader any more.

    However. I will say that your ability to change directions when proven wrong is way above your reading comprehension skills.

    Don’t forget the straight ignoring tactic too

    Tell us about another rassler !

    You remind me of Mr. Perfect or "The Genius" Lanny Poffo....not sure which yet.

    I think I'd call myself Sonny Stunning or Sexy Steve Stunning if I was rasslin.

    Don't besmirch the good name of Steve Austin by using former adjectives to describe him

    Austin is a pretty boy, Podunk has been. I'd beat him like a red headed step child riding a rented mule.

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 29,246 mod
    edited August 2018

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @BamaDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    Smart's reaction when asked if people saw the practice seems telling. He switched to they aren't a problem, to focus on reporters, he was being disingenuous. He was mad about being asked a question and made a suggestion about something he was clearly wrong about. No media outlet was reporting the injury prior to the presser, it came from the gentrified folks who got to watch practice in exchange for cash.
    So 1100 schmos can watch, but not reporters.
    Some you are humbling yourselves below ''boosters''. This is not what CBF has been about since it's inception. The game is being handed to the money men. Bama is actually reducing stadium capacity to make room for 3000 seats for the gentry set.

    Back to the point. So Kirby can make a false claim, then retreat when he realizes it was probably people who are allowed to watch who spilled the beans, not reporters.

    I don't think apologizing for making a mistake is a bad thing. Au contraire.

    He didn't apologize, at least not during the presser, he just changed the subject and sort of pretended he meant something else.

    Apparently, he apologized off camera.

    The information surrounding Zamir's first ACL was that it was not so severe that he couldn't walk around on it for a couple of days before questioning it. What I remember was folks were optimistic he could return by the start of the season. When fall camp began he was "full go" which means the brace was a precaution. The doctors cleared Zamir to play and media reports said he seemed to be fine.

    Given this, what was the point of the question about Zamir being on punt returns? I understand why Kirby reacted as he did. The question implies Zamir should not have been playing special teams. It implies someone made a mistake playing him. The player had the go ahead. Why shouldn't he play on punt coverage?

    Zamir probably shouldn't have been playing gunner on a punt return just 8 months after surgery, there is little to no upside, huge downside.
    As for the brace, I've had femoral nerve constriction on my left side for 13 years. It causes pain and numbness down my left leg into the foot. When I'm on uneven ground it's not the left leg and knee that usually gets sprained though, it is the right side. We compensate by shifting weight and balance away from weakness and injury, that should have been considered with White wearing a brace, which in itself causes altered mechanics.

    I’ll email Ron Courson and ask him to resign so that you can fill in. If kirby makes another mistake like this, you’ll be able to take over for him too.

    I don't always agree with WCDawg or how he approaches thing, but he's got a good head on his shoulders. You are allowed to criticize people even if they have more knowledge than you on a subject, because people make mistakes and are always learning. . .especially in the field of medicine. Hindsight is obviously 20/20, but I do wonder if Zamir shouldn't have been held out of contact a bit longer. There's a lot of evidence that knee injuries in the "good knee" often occur after a recovery from an injury in the other knee. Even if his knee was structurally perfect, one could argue that his brain was still favoring the other one.

    Just to be clear, I don't fault Courson or Smart, and I think both are great at their jobs. That doesn't mean that they don't make mistakes or shouldn't reevaluate certain positions they have taken. H e l l, in a different setting, Kirby just argued how one always has to be willing to self-examine and reevaluate and adjust. That applies in everything, not just in schematic football.

    Was it not the other leg? If so, this being cleared crap is just that, crap.

    You seem to be missing a lot of today's conversation.

    Nah, you just seem to be doing what you do best, nothing. I went and looked just to make sure and it was the other knee. So I ask again Dr. Wc, since it was the other knee, how is you argument about him practicing relevant?

    I won't go back over today's conversation for you.

    Thank God. Not for sure I could take the ramblings of a 3rd grader any more.

    However. I will say that your ability to change directions when proven wrong is way above your reading comprehension skills.

    Don’t forget the straight ignoring tactic too

    Tell us about another rassler !

    You remind me of Mr. Perfect or "The Genius" Lanny Poffo....not sure which yet.

    I think I'd call myself Sonny Stunning or Sexy Steve Stunning if I was rasslin.

    Don't besmirch the good name of Steve Austin by using former adjectives to describe him

    Austin is a pretty boy, Podunk has been. I'd beat him like a red headed step child riding a rented mule.

    https://giphy.com/gifs/M7t5GIszd4Nc4/html5

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @BamaDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    Smart's reaction when asked if people saw the practice seems telling. He switched to they aren't a problem, to focus on reporters, he was being disingenuous. He was mad about being asked a question and made a suggestion about something he was clearly wrong about. No media outlet was reporting the injury prior to the presser, it came from the gentrified folks who got to watch practice in exchange for cash.
    So 1100 schmos can watch, but not reporters.
    Some you are humbling yourselves below ''boosters''. This is not what CBF has been about since it's inception. The game is being handed to the money men. Bama is actually reducing stadium capacity to make room for 3000 seats for the gentry set.

    Back to the point. So Kirby can make a false claim, then retreat when he realizes it was probably people who are allowed to watch who spilled the beans, not reporters.

    I don't think apologizing for making a mistake is a bad thing. Au contraire.

    He didn't apologize, at least not during the presser, he just changed the subject and sort of pretended he meant something else.

    Apparently, he apologized off camera.

    The information surrounding Zamir's first ACL was that it was not so severe that he couldn't walk around on it for a couple of days before questioning it. What I remember was folks were optimistic he could return by the start of the season. When fall camp began he was "full go" which means the brace was a precaution. The doctors cleared Zamir to play and media reports said he seemed to be fine.

    Given this, what was the point of the question about Zamir being on punt returns? I understand why Kirby reacted as he did. The question implies Zamir should not have been playing special teams. It implies someone made a mistake playing him. The player had the go ahead. Why shouldn't he play on punt coverage?

    Zamir probably shouldn't have been playing gunner on a punt return just 8 months after surgery, there is little to no upside, huge downside.
    As for the brace, I've had femoral nerve constriction on my left side for 13 years. It causes pain and numbness down my left leg into the foot. When I'm on uneven ground it's not the left leg and knee that usually gets sprained though, it is the right side. We compensate by shifting weight and balance away from weakness and injury, that should have been considered with White wearing a brace, which in itself causes altered mechanics.

    I’ll email Ron Courson and ask him to resign so that you can fill in. If kirby makes another mistake like this, you’ll be able to take over for him too.

    I don't always agree with WCDawg or how he approaches thing, but he's got a good head on his shoulders. You are allowed to criticize people even if they have more knowledge than you on a subject, because people make mistakes and are always learning. . .especially in the field of medicine. Hindsight is obviously 20/20, but I do wonder if Zamir shouldn't have been held out of contact a bit longer. There's a lot of evidence that knee injuries in the "good knee" often occur after a recovery from an injury in the other knee. Even if his knee was structurally perfect, one could argue that his brain was still favoring the other one.

    Just to be clear, I don't fault Courson or Smart, and I think both are great at their jobs. That doesn't mean that they don't make mistakes or shouldn't reevaluate certain positions they have taken. H e l l, in a different setting, Kirby just argued how one always has to be willing to self-examine and reevaluate and adjust. That applies in everything, not just in schematic football.

    Was it not the other leg? If so, this being cleared crap is just that, crap.

    You seem to be missing a lot of today's conversation.

    Nah, you just seem to be doing what you do best, nothing. I went and looked just to make sure and it was the other knee. So I ask again Dr. Wc, since it was the other knee, how is you argument about him practicing relevant?

    I won't go back over today's conversation for you.

    Thank God. Not for sure I could take the ramblings of a 3rd grader any more.

    However. I will say that your ability to change directions when proven wrong is way above your reading comprehension skills.

    Don’t forget the straight ignoring tactic too

    Tell us about another rassler !

    You remind me of Mr. Perfect or "The Genius" Lanny Poffo....not sure which yet.

    I think I'd call myself Sonny Stunning or Sexy Steve Stunning if I was rasslin.

    Don't besmirch the good name of Steve Austin by using former adjectives to describe him

    Austin is a pretty boy, Podunk has been. I'd beat him like a red headed step child riding a rented mule.

    https://giphy.com/gifs/M7t5GIszd4Nc4/html5

    He looks like he's trying to get his ears to pop...panty waist.

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 29,246 mod

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @BamaDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    Smart's reaction when asked if people saw the practice seems telling. He switched to they aren't a problem, to focus on reporters, he was being disingenuous. He was mad about being asked a question and made a suggestion about something he was clearly wrong about. No media outlet was reporting the injury prior to the presser, it came from the gentrified folks who got to watch practice in exchange for cash.
    So 1100 schmos can watch, but not reporters.
    Some you are humbling yourselves below ''boosters''. This is not what CBF has been about since it's inception. The game is being handed to the money men. Bama is actually reducing stadium capacity to make room for 3000 seats for the gentry set.

    Back to the point. So Kirby can make a false claim, then retreat when he realizes it was probably people who are allowed to watch who spilled the beans, not reporters.

    I don't think apologizing for making a mistake is a bad thing. Au contraire.

    He didn't apologize, at least not during the presser, he just changed the subject and sort of pretended he meant something else.

    Apparently, he apologized off camera.

    The information surrounding Zamir's first ACL was that it was not so severe that he couldn't walk around on it for a couple of days before questioning it. What I remember was folks were optimistic he could return by the start of the season. When fall camp began he was "full go" which means the brace was a precaution. The doctors cleared Zamir to play and media reports said he seemed to be fine.

    Given this, what was the point of the question about Zamir being on punt returns? I understand why Kirby reacted as he did. The question implies Zamir should not have been playing special teams. It implies someone made a mistake playing him. The player had the go ahead. Why shouldn't he play on punt coverage?

    Zamir probably shouldn't have been playing gunner on a punt return just 8 months after surgery, there is little to no upside, huge downside.
    As for the brace, I've had femoral nerve constriction on my left side for 13 years. It causes pain and numbness down my left leg into the foot. When I'm on uneven ground it's not the left leg and knee that usually gets sprained though, it is the right side. We compensate by shifting weight and balance away from weakness and injury, that should have been considered with White wearing a brace, which in itself causes altered mechanics.

    I’ll email Ron Courson and ask him to resign so that you can fill in. If kirby makes another mistake like this, you’ll be able to take over for him too.

    I don't always agree with WCDawg or how he approaches thing, but he's got a good head on his shoulders. You are allowed to criticize people even if they have more knowledge than you on a subject, because people make mistakes and are always learning. . .especially in the field of medicine. Hindsight is obviously 20/20, but I do wonder if Zamir shouldn't have been held out of contact a bit longer. There's a lot of evidence that knee injuries in the "good knee" often occur after a recovery from an injury in the other knee. Even if his knee was structurally perfect, one could argue that his brain was still favoring the other one.

    Just to be clear, I don't fault Courson or Smart, and I think both are great at their jobs. That doesn't mean that they don't make mistakes or shouldn't reevaluate certain positions they have taken. H e l l, in a different setting, Kirby just argued how one always has to be willing to self-examine and reevaluate and adjust. That applies in everything, not just in schematic football.

    Was it not the other leg? If so, this being cleared crap is just that, crap.

    You seem to be missing a lot of today's conversation.

    Nah, you just seem to be doing what you do best, nothing. I went and looked just to make sure and it was the other knee. So I ask again Dr. Wc, since it was the other knee, how is you argument about him practicing relevant?

    I won't go back over today's conversation for you.

    Thank God. Not for sure I could take the ramblings of a 3rd grader any more.

    However. I will say that your ability to change directions when proven wrong is way above your reading comprehension skills.

    Don’t forget the straight ignoring tactic too

    Tell us about another rassler !

    You remind me of Mr. Perfect or "The Genius" Lanny Poffo....not sure which yet.

    I think I'd call myself Sonny Stunning or Sexy Steve Stunning if I was rasslin.

    Don't besmirch the good name of Steve Austin by using former adjectives to describe him

    Austin is a pretty boy, Podunk has been. I'd beat him like a red headed step child riding a rented mule.

    https://giphy.com/gifs/M7t5GIszd4Nc4/html5

    He looks like he's trying to get his ears to pop...panty waist.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/QXkubR6t8Xvz2/giphy.gif

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @BamaDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    Smart's reaction when asked if people saw the practice seems telling. He switched to they aren't a problem, to focus on reporters, he was being disingenuous. He was mad about being asked a question and made a suggestion about something he was clearly wrong about. No media outlet was reporting the injury prior to the presser, it came from the gentrified folks who got to watch practice in exchange for cash.
    So 1100 schmos can watch, but not reporters.
    Some you are humbling yourselves below ''boosters''. This is not what CBF has been about since it's inception. The game is being handed to the money men. Bama is actually reducing stadium capacity to make room for 3000 seats for the gentry set.

    Back to the point. So Kirby can make a false claim, then retreat when he realizes it was probably people who are allowed to watch who spilled the beans, not reporters.

    I don't think apologizing for making a mistake is a bad thing. Au contraire.

    He didn't apologize, at least not during the presser, he just changed the subject and sort of pretended he meant something else.

    Apparently, he apologized off camera.

    The information surrounding Zamir's first ACL was that it was not so severe that he couldn't walk around on it for a couple of days before questioning it. What I remember was folks were optimistic he could return by the start of the season. When fall camp began he was "full go" which means the brace was a precaution. The doctors cleared Zamir to play and media reports said he seemed to be fine.

    Given this, what was the point of the question about Zamir being on punt returns? I understand why Kirby reacted as he did. The question implies Zamir should not have been playing special teams. It implies someone made a mistake playing him. The player had the go ahead. Why shouldn't he play on punt coverage?

    Zamir probably shouldn't have been playing gunner on a punt return just 8 months after surgery, there is little to no upside, huge downside.
    As for the brace, I've had femoral nerve constriction on my left side for 13 years. It causes pain and numbness down my left leg into the foot. When I'm on uneven ground it's not the left leg and knee that usually gets sprained though, it is the right side. We compensate by shifting weight and balance away from weakness and injury, that should have been considered with White wearing a brace, which in itself causes altered mechanics.

    I’ll email Ron Courson and ask him to resign so that you can fill in. If kirby makes another mistake like this, you’ll be able to take over for him too.

    I don't always agree with WCDawg or how he approaches thing, but he's got a good head on his shoulders. You are allowed to criticize people even if they have more knowledge than you on a subject, because people make mistakes and are always learning. . .especially in the field of medicine. Hindsight is obviously 20/20, but I do wonder if Zamir shouldn't have been held out of contact a bit longer. There's a lot of evidence that knee injuries in the "good knee" often occur after a recovery from an injury in the other knee. Even if his knee was structurally perfect, one could argue that his brain was still favoring the other one.

    Just to be clear, I don't fault Courson or Smart, and I think both are great at their jobs. That doesn't mean that they don't make mistakes or shouldn't reevaluate certain positions they have taken. H e l l, in a different setting, Kirby just argued how one always has to be willing to self-examine and reevaluate and adjust. That applies in everything, not just in schematic football.

    Was it not the other leg? If so, this being cleared crap is just that, crap.

    You seem to be missing a lot of today's conversation.

    Nah, you just seem to be doing what you do best, nothing. I went and looked just to make sure and it was the other knee. So I ask again Dr. Wc, since it was the other knee, how is you argument about him practicing relevant?

    I won't go back over today's conversation for you.

    Thank God. Not for sure I could take the ramblings of a 3rd grader any more.

    However. I will say that your ability to change directions when proven wrong is way above your reading comprehension skills.

    Don’t forget the straight ignoring tactic too

    Tell us about another rassler !

    You remind me of Mr. Perfect or "The Genius" Lanny Poffo....not sure which yet.

    I think I'd call myself Sonny Stunning or Sexy Steve Stunning if I was rasslin.

    Don't besmirch the good name of Steve Austin by using former adjectives to describe him

    Austin is a pretty boy, Podunk has been. I'd beat him like a red headed step child riding a rented mule.

    https://giphy.com/gifs/M7t5GIszd4Nc4/html5

    He looks like he's trying to get his ears to pop...panty waist.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/QXkubR6t8Xvz2/giphy.gif

    he's just fat and sad looking there.

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 29,246 mod

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @BamaDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    Smart's reaction when asked if people saw the practice seems telling. He switched to they aren't a problem, to focus on reporters, he was being disingenuous. He was mad about being asked a question and made a suggestion about something he was clearly wrong about. No media outlet was reporting the injury prior to the presser, it came from the gentrified folks who got to watch practice in exchange for cash.
    So 1100 schmos can watch, but not reporters.
    Some you are humbling yourselves below ''boosters''. This is not what CBF has been about since it's inception. The game is being handed to the money men. Bama is actually reducing stadium capacity to make room for 3000 seats for the gentry set.

    Back to the point. So Kirby can make a false claim, then retreat when he realizes it was probably people who are allowed to watch who spilled the beans, not reporters.

    I don't think apologizing for making a mistake is a bad thing. Au contraire.

    He didn't apologize, at least not during the presser, he just changed the subject and sort of pretended he meant something else.

    Apparently, he apologized off camera.

    The information surrounding Zamir's first ACL was that it was not so severe that he couldn't walk around on it for a couple of days before questioning it. What I remember was folks were optimistic he could return by the start of the season. When fall camp began he was "full go" which means the brace was a precaution. The doctors cleared Zamir to play and media reports said he seemed to be fine.

    Given this, what was the point of the question about Zamir being on punt returns? I understand why Kirby reacted as he did. The question implies Zamir should not have been playing special teams. It implies someone made a mistake playing him. The player had the go ahead. Why shouldn't he play on punt coverage?

    Zamir probably shouldn't have been playing gunner on a punt return just 8 months after surgery, there is little to no upside, huge downside.
    As for the brace, I've had femoral nerve constriction on my left side for 13 years. It causes pain and numbness down my left leg into the foot. When I'm on uneven ground it's not the left leg and knee that usually gets sprained though, it is the right side. We compensate by shifting weight and balance away from weakness and injury, that should have been considered with White wearing a brace, which in itself causes altered mechanics.

    I’ll email Ron Courson and ask him to resign so that you can fill in. If kirby makes another mistake like this, you’ll be able to take over for him too.

    I don't always agree with WCDawg or how he approaches thing, but he's got a good head on his shoulders. You are allowed to criticize people even if they have more knowledge than you on a subject, because people make mistakes and are always learning. . .especially in the field of medicine. Hindsight is obviously 20/20, but I do wonder if Zamir shouldn't have been held out of contact a bit longer. There's a lot of evidence that knee injuries in the "good knee" often occur after a recovery from an injury in the other knee. Even if his knee was structurally perfect, one could argue that his brain was still favoring the other one.

    Just to be clear, I don't fault Courson or Smart, and I think both are great at their jobs. That doesn't mean that they don't make mistakes or shouldn't reevaluate certain positions they have taken. H e l l, in a different setting, Kirby just argued how one always has to be willing to self-examine and reevaluate and adjust. That applies in everything, not just in schematic football.

    Was it not the other leg? If so, this being cleared crap is just that, crap.

    You seem to be missing a lot of today's conversation.

    Nah, you just seem to be doing what you do best, nothing. I went and looked just to make sure and it was the other knee. So I ask again Dr. Wc, since it was the other knee, how is you argument about him practicing relevant?

    I won't go back over today's conversation for you.

    Thank God. Not for sure I could take the ramblings of a 3rd grader any more.

    However. I will say that your ability to change directions when proven wrong is way above your reading comprehension skills.

    Don’t forget the straight ignoring tactic too

    Tell us about another rassler !

    You remind me of Mr. Perfect or "The Genius" Lanny Poffo....not sure which yet.

    I think I'd call myself Sonny Stunning or Sexy Steve Stunning if I was rasslin.

    Don't besmirch the good name of Steve Austin by using former adjectives to describe him

    Austin is a pretty boy, Podunk has been. I'd beat him like a red headed step child riding a rented mule.

    https://giphy.com/gifs/M7t5GIszd4Nc4/html5

    He looks like he's trying to get his ears to pop...panty waist.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/QXkubR6t8Xvz2/giphy.gif

    he's just fat and sad looking there.

    Sounds like you're projecting here

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @BamaDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    Smart's reaction when asked if people saw the practice seems telling. He switched to they aren't a problem, to focus on reporters, he was being disingenuous. He was mad about being asked a question and made a suggestion about something he was clearly wrong about. No media outlet was reporting the injury prior to the presser, it came from the gentrified folks who got to watch practice in exchange for cash.
    So 1100 schmos can watch, but not reporters.
    Some you are humbling yourselves below ''boosters''. This is not what CBF has been about since it's inception. The game is being handed to the money men. Bama is actually reducing stadium capacity to make room for 3000 seats for the gentry set.

    Back to the point. So Kirby can make a false claim, then retreat when he realizes it was probably people who are allowed to watch who spilled the beans, not reporters.

    I don't think apologizing for making a mistake is a bad thing. Au contraire.

    He didn't apologize, at least not during the presser, he just changed the subject and sort of pretended he meant something else.

    Apparently, he apologized off camera.

    The information surrounding Zamir's first ACL was that it was not so severe that he couldn't walk around on it for a couple of days before questioning it. What I remember was folks were optimistic he could return by the start of the season. When fall camp began he was "full go" which means the brace was a precaution. The doctors cleared Zamir to play and media reports said he seemed to be fine.

    Given this, what was the point of the question about Zamir being on punt returns? I understand why Kirby reacted as he did. The question implies Zamir should not have been playing special teams. It implies someone made a mistake playing him. The player had the go ahead. Why shouldn't he play on punt coverage?

    Zamir probably shouldn't have been playing gunner on a punt return just 8 months after surgery, there is little to no upside, huge downside.
    As for the brace, I've had femoral nerve constriction on my left side for 13 years. It causes pain and numbness down my left leg into the foot. When I'm on uneven ground it's not the left leg and knee that usually gets sprained though, it is the right side. We compensate by shifting weight and balance away from weakness and injury, that should have been considered with White wearing a brace, which in itself causes altered mechanics.

    I’ll email Ron Courson and ask him to resign so that you can fill in. If kirby makes another mistake like this, you’ll be able to take over for him too.

    I don't always agree with WCDawg or how he approaches thing, but he's got a good head on his shoulders. You are allowed to criticize people even if they have more knowledge than you on a subject, because people make mistakes and are always learning. . .especially in the field of medicine. Hindsight is obviously 20/20, but I do wonder if Zamir shouldn't have been held out of contact a bit longer. There's a lot of evidence that knee injuries in the "good knee" often occur after a recovery from an injury in the other knee. Even if his knee was structurally perfect, one could argue that his brain was still favoring the other one.

    Just to be clear, I don't fault Courson or Smart, and I think both are great at their jobs. That doesn't mean that they don't make mistakes or shouldn't reevaluate certain positions they have taken. H e l l, in a different setting, Kirby just argued how one always has to be willing to self-examine and reevaluate and adjust. That applies in everything, not just in schematic football.

    Was it not the other leg? If so, this being cleared crap is just that, crap.

    You seem to be missing a lot of today's conversation.

    Nah, you just seem to be doing what you do best, nothing. I went and looked just to make sure and it was the other knee. So I ask again Dr. Wc, since it was the other knee, how is you argument about him practicing relevant?

    I won't go back over today's conversation for you.

    Thank God. Not for sure I could take the ramblings of a 3rd grader any more.

    However. I will say that your ability to change directions when proven wrong is way above your reading comprehension skills.

    Don’t forget the straight ignoring tactic too

    Tell us about another rassler !

    You remind me of Mr. Perfect or "The Genius" Lanny Poffo....not sure which yet.

    I think I'd call myself Sonny Stunning or Sexy Steve Stunning if I was rasslin.

    Don't besmirch the good name of Steve Austin by using former adjectives to describe him

    Austin is a pretty boy, Podunk has been. I'd beat him like a red headed step child riding a rented mule.

    https://giphy.com/gifs/M7t5GIszd4Nc4/html5

    He looks like he's trying to get his ears to pop...panty waist.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/QXkubR6t8Xvz2/giphy.gif

    he's just fat and sad looking there.

    Sounds like you're projecting here

    Nope, I'm a lean, mean wise ass machine.

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @BamaDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    Smart's reaction when asked if people saw the practice seems telling. He switched to they aren't a problem, to focus on reporters, he was being disingenuous. He was mad about being asked a question and made a suggestion about something he was clearly wrong about. No media outlet was reporting the injury prior to the presser, it came from the gentrified folks who got to watch practice in exchange for cash.
    So 1100 schmos can watch, but not reporters.
    Some you are humbling yourselves below ''boosters''. This is not what CBF has been about since it's inception. The game is being handed to the money men. Bama is actually reducing stadium capacity to make room for 3000 seats for the gentry set.

    Back to the point. So Kirby can make a false claim, then retreat when he realizes it was probably people who are allowed to watch who spilled the beans, not reporters.

    I don't think apologizing for making a mistake is a bad thing. Au contraire.

    He didn't apologize, at least not during the presser, he just changed the subject and sort of pretended he meant something else.

    Apparently, he apologized off camera.

    The information surrounding Zamir's first ACL was that it was not so severe that he couldn't walk around on it for a couple of days before questioning it. What I remember was folks were optimistic he could return by the start of the season. When fall camp began he was "full go" which means the brace was a precaution. The doctors cleared Zamir to play and media reports said he seemed to be fine.

    Given this, what was the point of the question about Zamir being on punt returns? I understand why Kirby reacted as he did. The question implies Zamir should not have been playing special teams. It implies someone made a mistake playing him. The player had the go ahead. Why shouldn't he play on punt coverage?

    Zamir probably shouldn't have been playing gunner on a punt return just 8 months after surgery, there is little to no upside, huge downside.
    As for the brace, I've had femoral nerve constriction on my left side for 13 years. It causes pain and numbness down my left leg into the foot. When I'm on uneven ground it's not the left leg and knee that usually gets sprained though, it is the right side. We compensate by shifting weight and balance away from weakness and injury, that should have been considered with White wearing a brace, which in itself causes altered mechanics.

    I’ll email Ron Courson and ask him to resign so that you can fill in. If kirby makes another mistake like this, you’ll be able to take over for him too.

    I don't always agree with WCDawg or how he approaches thing, but he's got a good head on his shoulders. You are allowed to criticize people even if they have more knowledge than you on a subject, because people make mistakes and are always learning. . .especially in the field of medicine. Hindsight is obviously 20/20, but I do wonder if Zamir shouldn't have been held out of contact a bit longer. There's a lot of evidence that knee injuries in the "good knee" often occur after a recovery from an injury in the other knee. Even if his knee was structurally perfect, one could argue that his brain was still favoring the other one.

    Just to be clear, I don't fault Courson or Smart, and I think both are great at their jobs. That doesn't mean that they don't make mistakes or shouldn't reevaluate certain positions they have taken. H e l l, in a different setting, Kirby just argued how one always has to be willing to self-examine and reevaluate and adjust. That applies in everything, not just in schematic football.

    Was it not the other leg? If so, this being cleared crap is just that, crap.

    You seem to be missing a lot of today's conversation.

    Nah, you just seem to be doing what you do best, nothing. I went and looked just to make sure and it was the other knee. So I ask again Dr. Wc, since it was the other knee, how is you argument about him practicing relevant?

    I won't go back over today's conversation for you.

    Thank God. Not for sure I could take the ramblings of a 3rd grader any more.

    However. I will say that your ability to change directions when proven wrong is way above your reading comprehension skills.

    Don’t forget the straight ignoring tactic too

    Tell us about another rassler !

    You remind me of Mr. Perfect or "The Genius" Lanny Poffo....not sure which yet.

    I think I'd call myself Sonny Stunning or Sexy Steve Stunning if I was rasslin.

    Don't besmirch the good name of Steve Austin by using former adjectives to describe him

    Austin is a pretty boy, Podunk has been. I'd beat him like a red headed step child riding a rented mule.

    https://giphy.com/gifs/M7t5GIszd4Nc4/html5

    He looks like he's trying to get his ears to pop...panty waist.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/QXkubR6t8Xvz2/giphy.gif

    he's just fat and sad looking there.

    Sounds like you're projecting here

    Nope, I'm a lean, mean wise ass machine.

    Yes, you can be. You might get some agreement on that assessment (lol).

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @donm said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Kasey said:

    @BamaDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    Smart's reaction when asked if people saw the practice seems telling. He switched to they aren't a problem, to focus on reporters, he was being disingenuous. He was mad about being asked a question and made a suggestion about something he was clearly wrong about. No media outlet was reporting the injury prior to the presser, it came from the gentrified folks who got to watch practice in exchange for cash.
    So 1100 schmos can watch, but not reporters.
    Some you are humbling yourselves below ''boosters''. This is not what CBF has been about since it's inception. The game is being handed to the money men. Bama is actually reducing stadium capacity to make room for 3000 seats for the gentry set.

    Back to the point. So Kirby can make a false claim, then retreat when he realizes it was probably people who are allowed to watch who spilled the beans, not reporters.

    I don't think apologizing for making a mistake is a bad thing. Au contraire.

    He didn't apologize, at least not during the presser, he just changed the subject and sort of pretended he meant something else.

    Apparently, he apologized off camera.

    The information surrounding Zamir's first ACL was that it was not so severe that he couldn't walk around on it for a couple of days before questioning it. What I remember was folks were optimistic he could return by the start of the season. When fall camp began he was "full go" which means the brace was a precaution. The doctors cleared Zamir to play and media reports said he seemed to be fine.

    Given this, what was the point of the question about Zamir being on punt returns? I understand why Kirby reacted as he did. The question implies Zamir should not have been playing special teams. It implies someone made a mistake playing him. The player had the go ahead. Why shouldn't he play on punt coverage?

    Zamir probably shouldn't have been playing gunner on a punt return just 8 months after surgery, there is little to no upside, huge downside.
    As for the brace, I've had femoral nerve constriction on my left side for 13 years. It causes pain and numbness down my left leg into the foot. When I'm on uneven ground it's not the left leg and knee that usually gets sprained though, it is the right side. We compensate by shifting weight and balance away from weakness and injury, that should have been considered with White wearing a brace, which in itself causes altered mechanics.

    I’ll email Ron Courson and ask him to resign so that you can fill in. If kirby makes another mistake like this, you’ll be able to take over for him too.

    I don't always agree with WCDawg or how he approaches thing, but he's got a good head on his shoulders. You are allowed to criticize people even if they have more knowledge than you on a subject, because people make mistakes and are always learning. . .especially in the field of medicine. Hindsight is obviously 20/20, but I do wonder if Zamir shouldn't have been held out of contact a bit longer. There's a lot of evidence that knee injuries in the "good knee" often occur after a recovery from an injury in the other knee. Even if his knee was structurally perfect, one could argue that his brain was still favoring the other one.

    Just to be clear, I don't fault Courson or Smart, and I think both are great at their jobs. That doesn't mean that they don't make mistakes or shouldn't reevaluate certain positions they have taken. H e l l, in a different setting, Kirby just argued how one always has to be willing to self-examine and reevaluate and adjust. That applies in everything, not just in schematic football.

    Was it not the other leg? If so, this being cleared crap is just that, crap.

    You seem to be missing a lot of today's conversation.

    Nah, you just seem to be doing what you do best, nothing. I went and looked just to make sure and it was the other knee. So I ask again Dr. Wc, since it was the other knee, how is you argument about him practicing relevant?

    I won't go back over today's conversation for you.

    Thank God. Not for sure I could take the ramblings of a 3rd grader any more.

    However. I will say that your ability to change directions when proven wrong is way above your reading comprehension skills.

    Don’t forget the straight ignoring tactic too

    Tell us about another rassler !

    You remind me of Mr. Perfect or "The Genius" Lanny Poffo....not sure which yet.

    I think I'd call myself Sonny Stunning or Sexy Steve Stunning if I was rasslin.

    Don't besmirch the good name of Steve Austin by using former adjectives to describe him

    Austin is a pretty boy, Podunk has been. I'd beat him like a red headed step child riding a rented mule.

    https://giphy.com/gifs/M7t5GIszd4Nc4/html5

    He looks like he's trying to get his ears to pop...panty waist.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/QXkubR6t8Xvz2/giphy.gif

    he's just fat and sad looking there.

    Sounds like you're projecting here

    Nope, I'm a lean, mean wise ass machine.

    Yes, you can be. You might get some agreement on that assessment (lol).

    Hey, I'm proud.

  • BamaDawgBamaDawg Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited August 2018

    @WCDawg said:

    I haven't been proven wrong Einstein, you're pulling that from your arse. Do you even know what it is he wants me to rehash ? cause off the top of my head I don't. I do know it's the gist of what has been gone over numerous times though.
    You're more about tossing out insults than substance.

    I have posted my thoughts on the subject to those that understand. As for being proven wrong.....

    As for being proven wrong, your entire arguement that that we should care if Chip is having problems getting info from Kirby is wrong. Almost as wrong as your analogy of and instructor (which I blew out of the water)....

  • MikeGriffithMikeGriffith Posts: 3,690 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Chip wrote a story that was in proper context, and his perspective on Georgia football coverage should be appreciated by Bulldogs fans. People should appreciate a journalist who is willing to take a stand, even when he knows it might not be a popular opinion. Too many cater

  • scooterdawgscooterdawg Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Personally Mike I've no problem with what Chip I wrote. I actually thought it was one of his better articles lately..I still say y'all need to get an intern to just do more proofreading. I know y'all have to post fast. I'm just saying to a grammar snob like me I see a lot of mispellings and words left out. Not being a dick. Just saying.

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