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Just a point, but nobody who's ever taken a knee for the anthem has ever claimed it was about the military. In fact if you remember when all this started, Kap was sitting, not kneeling for the anthem. A Navy seal talked to him and said it could be seen as disrespectful to the military and suggested he take a knee instead as a compromise... which he did.
The kneeling thing isn't anti-military. It's anti-police.
I'm not black... but I think you're racist. Feel free to freak out.
Come on Man. There's more to life than bigotry and racism.
You seem to have a big racial chip on your shoulder. The 60's were a turbulent time and the ugliness and horrific scenes you describe were indeed horrible.
But times have changed. Time to move on man. That was 50 years ago.
Maybe you should try to love your neighbor, instead of mistrusting him.
This is filled with a lot of wrong views and false narratives. The ad campaign as a whole (Serena included) has been getting nothing but rave reviews.
The fact that a man from the military met with Kap and said, "please don't sit, kneel. It's what the military does to respect its fallen brethren... But most of all its as if you're taking a knee to pray for both the country and the changes needed."
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/veteran-kaepernick-take-a-knee-anthem/
I dont get how such hate can be spewed out in this forum. I respect all of you but I am African American and I lived 18 years of my life (30 now) in a oppressed society, violent society, and racist world (Im from St. Louis, Mo). But even the simplest person has to see what the ad means. It is the thought that every elite athlete has, "Im willing to sacrifice everything for one thing." These athletes give up time, health, fun, etc for a end goal. Kaepernick had a different end goal. Malcolm X, Ghandi, MLK, etc all caused conflicts in their religion and countries but are now idolized because they had the foresight to sacrifice it all for the greater good. We all live different lives and my struggles arent you guys struggles but what you need to realize is GOD is more important than ANYTHING on this Earth (including a flag). So at the end of the day you shouldn't judge anyone thats God's job.
The idea that Kapernick has “sacrificed everything” is a joke. It isn’t that most of us don’t realize and aren’t concerned with some over reaches of power or violence against blacks. That’s reality and justifiably brought up. But don’t glorify this has-been who has sacrificed nothing in order to stay in the spotlight. Ok... I’m done and agree that we should focus on what unites us: a love for the Dawgs and a hatred of things orange.
Hate to get political here, but there are so many hardcore extreme right people on this forum who are so naive, but that's what you expect from a large portion of the UGA fanbase from the south. I guess everyone forgot how certain people who made sacrifices for our freedom and better equality sometimes had to break the law or get out of their comfort zone in order to address the issues in this country that weren't right at all.
FYI to anyone using Pat Tillman for justification...you look stup*d:
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Converse FTW
Time will judge my stance. Time always allows truth and love to rise above hate and bigotry. The only things I hate more than racism are gamecocks, gators, commadors, elephants, tigers, Vols, hogs, aggies,and land sharks ....Mississippi State you get a slight pass, can’t hate a bulldog.
I concur. But I would prefer Tillman be the face of the ad bc he actually did sacrifice things. Kap took a stand and has suffered the consequences. None of which was death
All I have to say to this is -- ALL LIVES MATTER--! Killing anyone no matter the sex, race, job, sexual orientation, political position or anything else are all equally bad and should be shunned by each and every one of us.
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“Sacrifice” is subjective and could have different meanings. Pat Tillman clearly paid the ultimate sacrifice as others who choose to serve, fight, and lay down their lives for our country. There’s no greater sacrifice in respect to that.
Kap is/was a declining QB. I doubt he thought he’d be out of the league when he chose to sit/kneel two years ago but he did donate $1M to community improvement relations even while unemployed, and has been ridiculed more than any player in recent memory. I see that as a form of sacrifice, just lesser in comparison.
Powerful.
Violence only begets violence.
I use a Chinese laundry...just kidding, it's Asian though.....
I keep trying to tell people, we've been in the Trump era from Fall 2015 to present. Trump was already creating division around the country and revealing people's true colors even before he was elected in the primaries. Trump may have entered office in 2017, but he was already stirring stuff up around this country well before then. When Kaepernick first protested during the 2016 NFL preseason in August, Trump had long already been well known and very popular by everyone and the political media despite Obama still being at the tail end of his presidency, and Obama had absolutely nothing to do with the issues Kaepernick was protesting on. Kaepernick even stated that we should be ashamed that both Trump and Hillary were chosen as our candidates when there were so many better leaders out there around the Republican and Democratic parties who could have been chosen. Politics aside, Trump does not act presidential at all compared to all previous presidents in modern history who had heart & class regardless of what party they were in.
A Tillman ad would be extremely conservative image wise for Nike, but Tillman was anything but a safe comfortable person for conservatives.
He was a radically outspoken, libertarian atheist who had no use for people who waved flags while letting others do their fighting.
Ok, I agree with your first sentence! Yes, the false narrative is—if you don’t think kneeling at National Anthem events is a good idea you are a racist. Oh, and also because you are from Georgia and root for the Dawgs! Haha!! Interestingly, I happen to agree that the police need to work and train to enforce the law fairly and safely—for everybody. I fully understand why many black Americans believe it isn’t enforced equally and fairly by some officers. And, I support working to eliminate racial profiling and mistreatment by the police. I’m for the stated goals of the protest! I am also very much in favor of supporting good police to enforce our laws. I suspect >95% of us would agree with those statements. All I am saying is that disrespecting our flag, anthem, and all they stand for is one of the worst possible ways to try to fix that problem. I believe it is a horrible mistake that will come back to bite us all. Professional athletes have a big influence on children. What are you teaching the next generation? If you see a problem, reach for the biggest shock you can to make a statement, or are you teaching them that our country, anthem and flag aren’t worth much? I like the former less than the latter, and I don’t like the latter at all. Burning the house down to let your parents know that you think they are unfair is always a bad idea imho. It leads to anarchy because the attitude will spread. I’m not a fan of these political boycotts, but I think the Nike boycott is in order.
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I'm not for censoring this kind of conversation, but this is not the place to have this discussion and its divisive amongst the members of this forum, our fanbase, and I'd imagine many of our players as well.
If you want to have this discussion somewhere find a politics forum. If you want to complain about the ad, go to the r/theDonald where there will be many like-minded individuals. No one is changing anyone's mind on this forum, and this will do nothing but drive people away.
I already bumped this thread way down last night only for it to come back to the top this morning. . .
PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD
umooner, maybe they believe in free speech?