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  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @texdawg there are two numbers that are important when it comes to covid deaths. Everyone that died with COVID-19 and those that died with COVID-19 as a contributing factor i.e. listed on death certificate. AFAIK only the ones listed on death certificates are in the official counts but it's important to keep track of every death while someone has COVID-19 to identify potential risk factors that we may be unaware of. As far as funeral homes go it's important they be aware of every COVID-19 person they prepare to take appropriate precautions from becoming infected.

  • BumBum Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I only suspect corruption when months and months of evidence lead me to conclude it is so. I’m sorry we can’t even agree there is corruption happening. You will believe what you want, and that is fine. History will tell the story as it always does. I will focus on teaching my son critical thinking. I’d be doing that today if he knew more than a handful of words...lol

  • texdawgtexdawg Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I don't get it all.....but I know it was listed as cause of death.

    I certainly respect the fact that you don't think anything unusual is going on. And I honestly do not know enough to put up a very good argument.

    But it seems to me something is up. Too many friends in the know have said so.

  • SupraSupra Posts: 109 ✭✭✭ Junior
    edited July 2020

    My 2 cents as an economist... it’s really hard to fudge numbers when they’re this large.



  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,535 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Great source. i read somewhere (a long while ago) that some states are running 8 weeks behind on some deaths.

  • pocoyopocoyo Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Would be a pity if someone with 110 posts and 80 dvs derailed a thread that is important to many of us. Teach your son what you want. Be more "measured" in what you post here. Please.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2020

    Responses like yours are how threads get derailed. You are as guilty as anyone, especially in this thread, with your little remarks about “some people” etc. Half of your posts in this thread are directed at someone, rather than about the topic. That’s not counting the posts you made about drinking and bars.

    Stop lecturing others and spare us your fake virtue while you hide from whatever your hiding from that led you to move to Central America from this great country.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I don’t think the negatives are being double counted. I also see where the other tests are backed out but your test numbers and %’s don’t match the dashboard. The case numbers are close enough, but the numbers of tests and pos% are way off.

    For instance.

    • Florida today - 50710 Tests, 10181 Cases (20.1%), 453 hospitalizations (new record) and 112 deaths. @Bankwalker Cases 2,738 (27.2%) over 55.
    • in  COVID-19 Check-in 2.0 Comment by Denmen185 July 15

    FDOH for the day in question now reports 10077 and 13.61%, which yields 74,041 tests ( 10077/.1361 ). Their total tests were 80,385 and 13,325 positives, so you can see where they backed out the extra positives and extra negatives. I just don’t see where 50710 tests and 20.1% you posted is derived.

    Another example:

    • Florida today 12,624 new cases on approx 66,000 tests giving a pos rate of 19.1%. 3,375 of the cases are in the 55+ age range. Hospitalizations (7 Day) have increased every day this month going from 179 per day to 350 per day over the 12 days. Death…
    • in  COVID-19 Check-in 2.0 Comment by Denmen185 July 13

    FDOH reports for same day 12,292 cases ( you are close enough) but only 11.53% positive. 112,000 total tests, for which 106,600 should have been first time testers (12292 / .1153 ). Are you missing 40k tests for this day, or am I making a mis...err, looking at it incorrectly?

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,535 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Here are the cumulative totals for yesterday and the day before.

    Daily =7/18 minus 7/17

    According to the page YOU linked to - Top left

    Positive 337,569 - Same as spreadsheet above

    Negative 2,594,419 - that gives a total tests with results (excludes Inconclusive and awaiting results) of 2,931,988. Same as above. These are the numbers reported to the CDC.

    The daily testing data you quote is purely for that day and so includes all tests that day whether repeat or not.

    I do not make the numbers up. I take them from the Florida Dashboard to get them early. As they show up on the John Hopkins University Covid-19 Dashboard I confirm that they are the same and they always agree by days end! Unless Excel isn't correctly deducting the total on the 17th from the total of the 18th The daily numbers are what they are.

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,535 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2020

    The total includes inconclusive/awaiting results so are not included in the official report submitted.

    The 11.5% agrees with the cumulative spreadsheet for 18th above.

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,535 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Last word on the subject - the site you linked

    THE NUMBERS ARE THE SAME

  • pocoyopocoyo Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
  • flemingislanddawgflemingislanddawg Posts: 622 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    More interesting stuff from CDC in 2010. I hear people say it is false that we stopped testing and reporting H1N1 cases but read this article from the CDC paragraph 2. Still not sure why when you don't know what a virus is going to do and don't test (everyone says testing is key) why no shutdown or mask mandate. Sounds like they assumed most people thought it was regular flu and dealt with it.


    https://www.cdc.gov/H1N1flu/estimates/April_February_13.htm

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2020

    Widespread testing was stopped later on in the swine flu pandemic for a few reasons.

    1. Most cases of flu in the US were caused by swine flu that year.

    2. Treatment was the same as regular flu.

    3. It was established that severity was on par with seasonal flu.

    Why waste resources if you know the vast majority of cases are swine flu and the treatment is the same for regular flu?

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