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Greatest basketball player of all time

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
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    @pgjackson said:

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    @PeachCoDawg said:
    If you really understand basketball, and take everything in to account and are old enough to at least be comparing 80s-now changes in personnel, rules changes, etc I don't even see how this could be an argument. Jordan. All day, all night.

    And not just in basketball. He might be the most dominant pro athlete of all time. Gretzky is right up there as was Montana and Brady is now. I’d put LeBron in this group, but Jordan is at the top.

    Jordan was great in basketball, he was never even a top amature in any other sport. Otto Graham was great at the highest level in multiple sports. I could list MANY athletes who were superior overall to MJ.

    I'm talking pro sports. Please don't start listing Michael Phelps or wrestler Alexander Karelin or some other Olympian with tons of gold medals. I'm talking major pro sports (football, basketball, baseball, tennis, hockey, golf...) Nobody dominated their sport the way MJ dominated the NBA.

    Jordan was really a one sport athlete compared to the truly versatile greats like Graham, Bo and Deon Sanders.

    You like to argue. I didn’t say he was the greatest multi-sport athlete. I said he dominated his professional sport unlike anyone else. Nobody has ever said “Bo Jackson or Deion Sanders was the greatest football player ever”. They were great multi-sport athletes, but they are on nobody’s All-Time Greatest list for baseball or football.

    Whether you're one of them or not I won't bother checking, but the claim has been made that Jordan is basically superior at other sports than basketball, he is not and never was.
    Sanders, Otto Graham, Elway, Ainge and MANY others were better at second sports than MJ was.

    Not me. He was definitely not a great multi-sport guy. But he dominated basketball like notbody ever dominated any sport.

    How about Wayne Gretzky, or 13 time champion Bill Russell ?

    In an earlier post I listed Gretzky as someone on par with Jordan. I’ll put Tom Brady in that group as well.

    Jordan has statistical rivals in The NBA, Gretzky sits on a mountain top all by himself.

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  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 18,987 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

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    @PeachCoDawg said:
    If you really understand basketball, and take everything in to account and are old enough to at least be comparing 80s-now changes in personnel, rules changes, etc I don't even see how this could be an argument. Jordan. All day, all night.

    And not just in basketball. He might be the most dominant pro athlete of all time. Gretzky is right up there as was Montana and Brady is now. I’d put LeBron in this group, but Jordan is at the top.

    Jordan was great in basketball, he was never even a top amature in any other sport. Otto Graham was great at the highest level in multiple sports. I could list MANY athletes who were superior overall to MJ.

    I'm talking pro sports. Please don't start listing Michael Phelps or wrestler Alexander Karelin or some other Olympian with tons of gold medals. I'm talking major pro sports (football, basketball, baseball, tennis, hockey, golf...) Nobody dominated their sport the way MJ dominated the NBA.

    Jordan was really a one sport athlete compared to the truly versatile greats like Graham, Bo and Deon Sanders.

    You like to argue. I didn’t say he was the greatest multi-sport athlete. I said he dominated his professional sport unlike anyone else. Nobody has ever said “Bo Jackson or Deion Sanders was the greatest football player ever”. They were great multi-sport athletes, but they are on nobody’s All-Time Greatest list for baseball or football.

    Whether you're one of them or not I won't bother checking, but the claim has been made that Jordan is basically superior at other sports than basketball, he is not and never was.
    Sanders, Otto Graham, Elway, Ainge and MANY others were better at second sports than MJ was.

    Not me. He was definitely not a great multi-sport guy. But he dominated basketball like notbody ever dominated any sport.

    How about Wayne Gretzky, or 13 time champion Bill Russell ?

    In an earlier post I listed Gretzky as someone on par with Jordan. I’ll put Tom Brady in that group as well.

    Jordan has statistical rivals in The NBA, Gretzky sits on a mountain top all by himself.

    True. So who goes on your Mt. Rushmore of professional athletes?

    Jordan
    Gretzky
    Brady

    After that i don’t know. Maybe LeBron.

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  • LawDawgLawDawg Posts: 84 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @pgjackson

    Jordan has statistical rivals in The NBA, Gretzky sits on a mountain top all by himself.

    True. So who goes on your Mt. Rushmore of professional athletes?

    Jordan
    Gretzky
    Brady

    After that i don’t know. Maybe LeBron.

    Changing it up slightly,

    1) Jordan
    2) Gretzky
    3) Serena (more majors and she's almost died several times yet keeps coming back).

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  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 18,987 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @LawDawg said:

    @pgjackson

    Jordan has statistical rivals in The NBA, Gretzky sits on a mountain top all by himself.

    True. So who goes on your Mt. Rushmore of professional athletes?

    Jordan
    Gretzky
    Brady

    After that i don’t know. Maybe LeBron.

    Changing it up slightly,

    1) Jordan
    2) Gretzky
    3) Serena (more majors and she's almost died several times yet keeps coming back).

    Very interesting...

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  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @LawDawg said:

    @pgjackson

    Jordan has statistical rivals in The NBA, Gretzky sits on a mountain top all by himself.

    True. So who goes on your Mt. Rushmore of professional athletes?

    Jordan
    Gretzky
    Brady

    After that i don’t know. Maybe LeBron.

    Changing it up slightly,

    1) Jordan
    2) Gretzky
    3) Serena (more majors and she's almost died several times yet keeps coming back).

    Embarrassed to say I didn't even think of women. Serena for modern day, maybe all-time, GOAT. Can't forget Babe Didrickson Zaharias if we are thinking of all-around best ever. For you younger, whippersnappers, check her out. Pretty amazing, especially the variety of sports excellence. Worst part of her career was having Alex Karras (remember him? ) play her husband in a movie about her.

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
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    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

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    @PeachCoDawg said:
    If you really understand basketball, and take everything in to account and are old enough to at least be comparing 80s-now changes in personnel, rules changes, etc I don't even see how this could be an argument. Jordan. All day, all night.

    And not just in basketball. He might be the most dominant pro athlete of all time. Gretzky is right up there as was Montana and Brady is now. I’d put LeBron in this group, but Jordan is at the top.

    Jordan was great in basketball, he was never even a top amature in any other sport. Otto Graham was great at the highest level in multiple sports. I could list MANY athletes who were superior overall to MJ.

    I'm talking pro sports. Please don't start listing Michael Phelps or wrestler Alexander Karelin or some other Olympian with tons of gold medals. I'm talking major pro sports (football, basketball, baseball, tennis, hockey, golf...) Nobody dominated their sport the way MJ dominated the NBA.

    Jordan was really a one sport athlete compared to the truly versatile greats like Graham, Bo and Deon Sanders.

    You like to argue. I didn’t say he was the greatest multi-sport athlete. I said he dominated his professional sport unlike anyone else. Nobody has ever said “Bo Jackson or Deion Sanders was the greatest football player ever”. They were great multi-sport athletes, but they are on nobody’s All-Time Greatest list for baseball or football.

    Whether you're one of them or not I won't bother checking, but the claim has been made that Jordan is basically superior at other sports than basketball, he is not and never was.
    Sanders, Otto Graham, Elway, Ainge and MANY others were better at second sports than MJ was.

    Not me. He was definitely not a great multi-sport guy. But he dominated basketball like notbody ever dominated any sport.

    How about Wayne Gretzky, or 13 time champion Bill Russell ?

    In an earlier post I listed Gretzky as someone on par with Jordan. I’ll put Tom Brady in that group as well.

    Jordan has statistical rivals in The NBA, Gretzky sits on a mountain top all by himself.

    True. So who goes on your Mt. Rushmore of professional athletes?

    Jordan
    Gretzky
    Brady

    After that i don’t know. Maybe LeBron.

    Bill Russell
    Wayne Gretzky
    Babe Ruth
    Mohammed Ali

    Ali as much for his influence as his boxing record.

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  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 18,987 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:
    If you really understand basketball, and take everything in to account and are old enough to at least be comparing 80s-now changes in personnel, rules changes, etc I don't even see how this could be an argument. Jordan. All day, all night.

    And not just in basketball. He might be the most dominant pro athlete of all time. Gretzky is right up there as was Montana and Brady is now. I’d put LeBron in this group, but Jordan is at the top.

    Jordan was great in basketball, he was never even a top amature in any other sport. Otto Graham was great at the highest level in multiple sports. I could list MANY athletes who were superior overall to MJ.

    I'm talking pro sports. Please don't start listing Michael Phelps or wrestler Alexander Karelin or some other Olympian with tons of gold medals. I'm talking major pro sports (football, basketball, baseball, tennis, hockey, golf...) Nobody dominated their sport the way MJ dominated the NBA.

    Jordan was really a one sport athlete compared to the truly versatile greats like Graham, Bo and Deon Sanders.

    You like to argue. I didn’t say he was the greatest multi-sport athlete. I said he dominated his professional sport unlike anyone else. Nobody has ever said “Bo Jackson or Deion Sanders was the greatest football player ever”. They were great multi-sport athletes, but they are on nobody’s All-Time Greatest list for baseball or football.

    Whether you're one of them or not I won't bother checking, but the claim has been made that Jordan is basically superior at other sports than basketball, he is not and never was.
    Sanders, Otto Graham, Elway, Ainge and MANY others were better at second sports than MJ was.

    Not me. He was definitely not a great multi-sport guy. But he dominated basketball like notbody ever dominated any sport.

    How about Wayne Gretzky, or 13 time champion Bill Russell ?

    In an earlier post I listed Gretzky as someone on par with Jordan. I’ll put Tom Brady in that group as well.

    Jordan has statistical rivals in The NBA, Gretzky sits on a mountain top all by himself.

    True. So who goes on your Mt. Rushmore of professional athletes?

    Jordan
    Gretzky
    Brady

    After that i don’t know. Maybe LeBron.

    Bill Russell
    Wayne Gretzky
    Babe Ruth
    Mohammed Ali

    Ali as much for his influence as his boxing record.

    Ali, definitely. Good call!

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  • JoelSidneyKellyJoelSidneyKelly Posts: 3,678 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    Jordan

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

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    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:
    If you really understand basketball, and take everything in to account and are old enough to at least be comparing 80s-now changes in personnel, rules changes, etc I don't even see how this could be an argument. Jordan. All day, all night.

    And not just in basketball. He might be the most dominant pro athlete of all time. Gretzky is right up there as was Montana and Brady is now. I’d put LeBron in this group, but Jordan is at the top.

    Jordan was great in basketball, he was never even a top amature in any other sport. Otto Graham was great at the highest level in multiple sports. I could list MANY athletes who were superior overall to MJ.

    I'm talking pro sports. Please don't start listing Michael Phelps or wrestler Alexander Karelin or some other Olympian with tons of gold medals. I'm talking major pro sports (football, basketball, baseball, tennis, hockey, golf...) Nobody dominated their sport the way MJ dominated the NBA.

    Jordan was really a one sport athlete compared to the truly versatile greats like Graham, Bo and Deon Sanders.

    You like to argue. I didn’t say he was the greatest multi-sport athlete. I said he dominated his professional sport unlike anyone else. Nobody has ever said “Bo Jackson or Deion Sanders was the greatest football player ever”. They were great multi-sport athletes, but they are on nobody’s All-Time Greatest list for baseball or football.

    Whether you're one of them or not I won't bother checking, but the claim has been made that Jordan is basically superior at other sports than basketball, he is not and never was.
    Sanders, Otto Graham, Elway, Ainge and MANY others were better at second sports than MJ was.

    Not me. He was definitely not a great multi-sport guy. But he dominated basketball like notbody ever dominated any sport.

    How about Wayne Gretzky, or 13 time champion Bill Russell ?

    In an earlier post I listed Gretzky as someone on par with Jordan. I’ll put Tom Brady in that group as well.

    Jordan has statistical rivals in The NBA, Gretzky sits on a mountain top all by himself.

    True. So who goes on your Mt. Rushmore of professional athletes?

    Jordan
    Gretzky
    Brady

    After that i don’t know. Maybe LeBron.

    Bill Russell
    Wayne Gretzky
    Babe Ruth
    Mohammed Ali

    Ali as much for his influence as his boxing record.

    Pelé

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  • judasdurantjudasdurant Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    Lebron

    @JoelSidneyKelly said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:
    If you really understand basketball, and take everything in to account and are old enough to at least be comparing 80s-now changes in personnel, rules changes, etc I don't even see how this could be an argument. Jordan. All day, all night.

    And not just in basketball. He might be the most dominant pro athlete of all time. Gretzky is right up there as was Montana and Brady is now. I’d put LeBron in this group, but Jordan is at the top.

    Jordan was great in basketball, he was never even a top amature in any other sport. Otto Graham was great at the highest level in multiple sports. I could list MANY athletes who were superior overall to MJ.

    I'm talking pro sports. Please don't start listing Michael Phelps or wrestler Alexander Karelin or some other Olympian with tons of gold medals. I'm talking major pro sports (football, basketball, baseball, tennis, hockey, golf...) Nobody dominated their sport the way MJ dominated the NBA.

    Jordan was really a one sport athlete compared to the truly versatile greats like Graham, Bo and Deon Sanders.

    You like to argue. I didn’t say he was the greatest multi-sport athlete. I said he dominated his professional sport unlike anyone else. Nobody has ever said “Bo Jackson or Deion Sanders was the greatest football player ever”. They were great multi-sport athletes, but they are on nobody’s All-Time Greatest list for baseball or football.

    Whether you're one of them or not I won't bother checking, but the claim has been made that Jordan is basically superior at other sports than basketball, he is not and never was.
    Sanders, Otto Graham, Elway, Ainge and MANY others were better at second sports than MJ was.

    Not me. He was definitely not a great multi-sport guy. But he dominated basketball like notbody ever dominated any sport.

    How about Wayne Gretzky, or 13 time champion Bill Russell ?

    In an earlier post I listed Gretzky as someone on par with Jordan. I’ll put Tom Brady in that group as well.

    Jordan has statistical rivals in The NBA, Gretzky sits on a mountain top all by himself.

    True. So who goes on your Mt. Rushmore of professional athletes?

    Jordan
    Gretzky
    Brady

    After that i don’t know. Maybe LeBron.

    Bill Russell
    Wayne Gretzky
    Babe Ruth
    Mohammed Ali

    Ali as much for his influence as his boxing record.

    Pelé

    @JoelSidneyKelly said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:
    If you really understand basketball, and take everything in to account and are old enough to at least be comparing 80s-now changes in personnel, rules changes, etc I don't even see how this could be an argument. Jordan. All day, all night.

    And not just in basketball. He might be the most dominant pro athlete of all time. Gretzky is right up there as was Montana and Brady is now. I’d put LeBron in this group, but Jordan is at the top.

    Jordan was great in basketball, he was never even a top amature in any other sport. Otto Graham was great at the highest level in multiple sports. I could list MANY athletes who were superior overall to MJ.

    I'm talking pro sports. Please don't start listing Michael Phelps or wrestler Alexander Karelin or some other Olympian with tons of gold medals. I'm talking major pro sports (football, basketball, baseball, tennis, hockey, golf...) Nobody dominated their sport the way MJ dominated the NBA.

    Jordan was really a one sport athlete compared to the truly versatile greats like Graham, Bo and Deon Sanders.

    You like to argue. I didn’t say he was the greatest multi-sport athlete. I said he dominated his professional sport unlike anyone else. Nobody has ever said “Bo Jackson or Deion Sanders was the greatest football player ever”. They were great multi-sport athletes, but they are on nobody’s All-Time Greatest list for baseball or football.

    Whether you're one of them or not I won't bother checking, but the claim has been made that Jordan is basically superior at other sports than basketball, he is not and never was.
    Sanders, Otto Graham, Elway, Ainge and MANY others were better at second sports than MJ was.

    Not me. He was definitely not a great multi-sport guy. But he dominated basketball like notbody ever dominated any sport.

    How about Wayne Gretzky, or 13 time champion Bill Russell ?

    In an earlier post I listed Gretzky as someone on par with Jordan. I’ll put Tom Brady in that group as well.

    Jordan has statistical rivals in The NBA, Gretzky sits on a mountain top all by himself.

    True. So who goes on your Mt. Rushmore of professional athletes?

    Jordan
    Gretzky
    Brady

    After that i don’t know. Maybe LeBron.

    Bill Russell
    Wayne Gretzky
    Babe Ruth
    Mohammed Ali

    Ali as much for his influence as his boxing record.

    Pelé

    Messi>pelé

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  • JoelSidneyKellyJoelSidneyKelly Posts: 3,678 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    Jordan

    @judasdurant said:

    @JoelSidneyKelly said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:
    If you really understand basketball, and take everything in to account and are old enough to at least be comparing 80s-now changes in personnel, rules changes, etc I don't even see how this could be an argument. Jordan. All day, all night.

    And not just in basketball. He might be the most dominant pro athlete of all time. Gretzky is right up there as was Montana and Brady is now. I’d put LeBron in this group, but Jordan is at the top.

    Jordan was great in basketball, he was never even a top amature in any other sport. Otto Graham was great at the highest level in multiple sports. I could list MANY athletes who were superior overall to MJ.

    I'm talking pro sports. Please don't start listing Michael Phelps or wrestler Alexander Karelin or some other Olympian with tons of gold medals. I'm talking major pro sports (football, basketball, baseball, tennis, hockey, golf...) Nobody dominated their sport the way MJ dominated the NBA.

    Jordan was really a one sport athlete compared to the truly versatile greats like Graham, Bo and Deon Sanders.

    You like to argue. I didn’t say he was the greatest multi-sport athlete. I said he dominated his professional sport unlike anyone else. Nobody has ever said “Bo Jackson or Deion Sanders was the greatest football player ever”. They were great multi-sport athletes, but they are on nobody’s All-Time Greatest list for baseball or football.

    Whether you're one of them or not I won't bother checking, but the claim has been made that Jordan is basically superior at other sports than basketball, he is not and never was.
    Sanders, Otto Graham, Elway, Ainge and MANY others were better at second sports than MJ was.

    Not me. He was definitely not a great multi-sport guy. But he dominated basketball like notbody ever dominated any sport.

    How about Wayne Gretzky, or 13 time champion Bill Russell ?

    In an earlier post I listed Gretzky as someone on par with Jordan. I’ll put Tom Brady in that group as well.

    Jordan has statistical rivals in The NBA, Gretzky sits on a mountain top all by himself.

    True. So who goes on your Mt. Rushmore of professional athletes?

    Jordan
    Gretzky
    Brady

    After that i don’t know. Maybe LeBron.

    Bill Russell
    Wayne Gretzky
    Babe Ruth
    Mohammed Ali

    Ali as much for his influence as his boxing record.

    Pelé

    @JoelSidneyKelly said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @PeachCoDawg said:
    If you really understand basketball, and take everything in to account and are old enough to at least be comparing 80s-now changes in personnel, rules changes, etc I don't even see how this could be an argument. Jordan. All day, all night.

    And not just in basketball. He might be the most dominant pro athlete of all time. Gretzky is right up there as was Montana and Brady is now. I’d put LeBron in this group, but Jordan is at the top.

    Jordan was great in basketball, he was never even a top amature in any other sport. Otto Graham was great at the highest level in multiple sports. I could list MANY athletes who were superior overall to MJ.

    I'm talking pro sports. Please don't start listing Michael Phelps or wrestler Alexander Karelin or some other Olympian with tons of gold medals. I'm talking major pro sports (football, basketball, baseball, tennis, hockey, golf...) Nobody dominated their sport the way MJ dominated the NBA.

    Jordan was really a one sport athlete compared to the truly versatile greats like Graham, Bo and Deon Sanders.

    You like to argue. I didn’t say he was the greatest multi-sport athlete. I said he dominated his professional sport unlike anyone else. Nobody has ever said “Bo Jackson or Deion Sanders was the greatest football player ever”. They were great multi-sport athletes, but they are on nobody’s All-Time Greatest list for baseball or football.

    Whether you're one of them or not I won't bother checking, but the claim has been made that Jordan is basically superior at other sports than basketball, he is not and never was.
    Sanders, Otto Graham, Elway, Ainge and MANY others were better at second sports than MJ was.

    Not me. He was definitely not a great multi-sport guy. But he dominated basketball like notbody ever dominated any sport.

    How about Wayne Gretzky, or 13 time champion Bill Russell ?

    In an earlier post I listed Gretzky as someone on par with Jordan. I’ll put Tom Brady in that group as well.

    Jordan has statistical rivals in The NBA, Gretzky sits on a mountain top all by himself.

    True. So who goes on your Mt. Rushmore of professional athletes?

    Jordan
    Gretzky
    Brady

    After that i don’t know. Maybe LeBron.

    Bill Russell
    Wayne Gretzky
    Babe Ruth
    Mohammed Ali

    Ali as much for his influence as his boxing record.

    Pelé

    Messi>pelé

    Messi is great.
    Pelé>Messi

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  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 18,987 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I think I’m adding Tyson over Ali to my Rushmore.

    Jordan
    Brady
    Gretzky
    Tyson

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