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Braves Ongoing Season Comments Thread..

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  • KirbstomperKirbstomper Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Ideally Martin throws like 30 innings this year, which means sobotka doesn’t throw 30. Martins innings are better than sobotkas innings. That’s the only real impact, not necessarily that we get to move guys down the bullpen pecking order. We just move somebody to Gwinnett, who probably deserves to be sent down anyway.

    Also, kolby Allard was valued really really low in this trade, which tells me he had really really low value across the industry. I don’t think anybody expects him to become an actual major league pitcher based on his trade value. Maybe has an outside shot at an innings eater #5 or first guy up out of AAA. People just don’t send actual prospects to teams for half a season of a 33 year old reliever.

  • UGA4LifeUGA4Life Posts: 930 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I went back and looked at his numbers against us. 15 starts, 7-7 record, 4.33 ERA. Last 10, 5-4, 4.18 ERA. Last 4, 3-0, 2.42. So I may have been letting recent history cloud my judgement of his career against us.

  • swilkerson73swilkerson73 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    It's ridiculous MLB is still refusing to use the laser system that every network that televises games have now. It might not be 100% perfect, but it's real close.

    I couldnt agree more! They have been using similar technology in Tennis for decades.

    It works. It can be done.

  • swilkerson73swilkerson73 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Go get Greene from DET or even better the hard throwing lefty from Pittsburgh. Name escapes me.

    Adding Martin and another strong arm to the bullpen would really give us a chance.

    The starters out there cost too much IMO. Martin didn't cost that much. One prospect they must not have been high on.

    Having a big left hand arm out of the pen helps against the Dodgers too. If you want to make it to the WS you are going to have to beat them at some point.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Results are results. The only possible issues I would have in acquiring Diaz would be if he's injured or potentially disruptive to team chemistry. Other than the 3 innings over 4 appearances this season he's been superb the past 2 years.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Somewhere along the way the word scuffle changed meanings. It's used like struggle now for some reason. It used to be used like 2 boys scuffled ( fought) on the playground. Clearly I'm getting older.

  • GeorgiaGirlGeorgiaGirl Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2019

    If you don't want to trade Allard, then who are you trading?

    Yes, he was formerly a big first round type that could've gone #1 without the back injury a few years back (and a lot of it was about they thought he could've put on weight and maintained low 90s while peaking in the mid 90s and a better looking curve, etc, which didn't happen), but his value had diminished after 2017, even if he regained some in 2019. It's not 1992, so a guy with his stuff (88-93 MPH fastball, change, curve, and had to develop a cutter), but is better for his pitchability just doesn't have as much value in the "today" era.

    I'm not going to bet anything, but it's big time unlikely that Allard becomes Adam Wainwright. It is FAR more likely that he's the next Randall Delgado, and has a solid, if non-descript career.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I put more weight on overall results and what a player has been like over his past 3 or 4 appearances. Maybe Soroka's superior road stats are a bit of a fluke, but it's encouraging.

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 29,723 mod

    Except he’s been shaky all season. Not sure how many Mets games you’re watching, but stats don’t always tell the whole story

  • MarkBoknechtMarkBoknecht Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Yeah, a laser system would be an interesting change for sure. In HS or Minor leagues where it's been tried, have there been certain pitchers, those that rely on change ups/curve balls out of the zone issuing more walks? Changing their approach to how they pitch?

    It's going to revolutionize the sport, if adopted.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    He's blown 4 saves. 3 of them came over those 4 appearances where he gave up 16 earned runs over 3 innings work. Over the other 36 innings and 41 appearances he's blown 1 save and he has a 1.50 ERA. I agree he can make coffee nervous but this is a result oriented enterprise, and he gets good results.

  • TeddyTeddy Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    If you take away a lot of relief pitchers worst 3 outings their ERA will always vastly improve. Jackson's ERA would be 1.90 if you take away his worst three outings this year. Sobtka's is 2.52 ERA removing his worst three outings.

  • TNDawg71TNDawg71 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Another bullpen arm would be nice, but I don't want to overpay. This move helped solidify the pen. It is unlikely we go into the postseason with the pen being a strength, hopefully we just aren't cringing.

  • CTDawgCTDawg Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Holy guacamole where was this Adam Duvall last year?

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 29,723 mod

    That’s all good. Just telling you what I see as a fan of the team he plays for

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