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  • PerroGrandePerroGrande Posts: 6,332 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Here is what is kind of scary--the CDC estimates that about 40% of CV 19 victims will be completely asymptomatic. All of those folks that don't think they need to wear a mask need to think about being responsible toward other people. For every six cases you hear about, with the normal range of symptoms--there are likely four other people out there with the active disease and who might not even know they are contagious.

  • BumBum Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
  • MarkBoknechtMarkBoknecht Posts: 1,665 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Mia_Dade06 About four days of really throbbing/splitting headache. And followed by modest improvement of about 10% per day. Good luck and get well soon.

  • Raiderbeater1Raiderbeater1 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Doesn’t even count the mild cases/symptoms that many people ignore.

  • GrayDawgGrayDawg Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    This article was interesting. For those claiming to adapt their opinions to new information, what about studies from the University of Chicago, UC Berkley, MIT, and some fancy German school? Not exactly a republican panel there. Maybe we can start to agree that the economy needs to be freed and our resources need to be pin pointed toward high risk populations. No more fear mongering. No more attempts to get to zero deaths without considering other costs.

  • BarkingDawgBarkingDawg Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Just posting to get this thread off the tres seises

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Possibly (likely) higher.

    The questions that matter are 1) what is the reproduction potential of asymptomatic carriers, 2) do asymptomatic carriers infect people who become symptomatic, and if so, 3) are the infections they spread less likely to produce severe complications - do asymptomatic carriers carry a lesser strain?

    If asymptomatic carriers largely produce other asymptomatic carriers then they can rapidly reduce the “susceptible gene pool” of potential symptomatic infections. Asymptomatic carriers could be the key to reaching threshold. This would explain the drop in cases that has been mirrored in locales across the globe with different mitigation efforts. See Sweden, as an example. High asymptomatic infection rates will also undermine mitigation efforts where the asymptomatic spread has been underestimated, which I believe to be the case in many locales.

    The spread of the virus seems to have caught health authorities off guard. It was not only spread sooner, but also wider than previously thought, which might imply a high asymptomatic spread that largely remains asymptomatic. On a local level, the virus has even spread somewhat uniformly across the state of Georgia. How could that occur so quickly without a high asymptomatic transmission rate that stays asymptomatic in most carriers?

    40%? Maybe higher, and if asymptomatic spread produces less severe cases then the question to ask is “Should everyone REALLY be wearing a mask?”

    I suppose we don’t really know the answers to all of these questions, thus the caution, but the newer statistics suggest very mild to asymptomatic spread is outnumbering symptomatic spread in these newer “hotspots”.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Interesting article. While this was not a republican panel, how do we know these studies weren’t funded by the RNC through some shady law firm?

    Scroll down to read the comments. A person known as “nobody really” takes on the economic costs of suicides, and implies that some suicides should probably be labeled as covid related if the person tests positive for covid. The person argues the disease could be causing neurologic complications which lead to increased suicide. It seems there’s one hiding in every corner.

  • UGA_2019UGA_2019 Posts: 157 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Somebody really should tell doctors and surgeons that wearing a mask is unhealthy, I’m sure there are many studies saying as much.

    /s

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Only a fool wouldn’t understand the difference between wearing one for a few minutes vs 8 hours. And yes, there are studies showing problems, but given your preference to be uninformed....

    I really have no interest in debating someone who has an Anderson Cooper poster over his bed.

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 30,041 mod

    Let’s play nice boys and girls.

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,605 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I missed the theory as to why lockdowns seem to have worked in virtually every country that has taken the virus seriously. I also googled econlib as I do in every case where I read an article and suggest others do likewise.

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,605 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2020

    Most of Europe where cases are now way below April level even with wider testing. Canada and Australia also. You can even add NE USA to the list where they had a coordinated and more stringent lockdown compared with the rest of the states.

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